Timber Rattlesnake Symbol of USA

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Stumbled upon this a moment ago. I watched it all. Learned some nuggets of data.


The guy below also mentions in the beginning the relevance of the Timber Rattlesnake to US history in a sense too.


Rarely do you see solid black ones I've heard. They are gorgeous. I'd love to run into one with my camera.

 
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One of my favorite snakes. Been trying to find one in Connecticut for the longest time. No luck, but I've heard they are out there!
 

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George Thorogood And The Destroyers

Song -
Who Do You Love

Lyrics -

I walked forty-seven miles of barbed wire,
I got a cobra snake for a necktie
A brand new house on the roadside,
and it's made out of rattlesnake hide

Rock On ...
 

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I LOVE these guys! I wouldn't call them "abundant," but they're all over Western New York, in some pretty interesting places! I have had the personal pleasure of encountering one once in Zoar Valley (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoar_Valley , https://zoarvalley.org/lawn-sign-campaign/), which seems to be much lesser known than Letchworth, but way better, in my opinion (& Letchworth is GORGEOUS). That second link is to an organization that's fighting efforts to log some of it, if anyone cares to check it out.
I also saw one, shockingly, sunning itself well past where the trail technically ends at the bottom of the Niagara Gorge, within roughly a mile of the base of Niagara Falls (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niagara_Gorge). I've been going there since I was a young child, & only saw that one when I was well into my 30's.
There's also a rest area along the westbound 86 just outside of Painted Post that was shut down & fenced off that has a den nearby. I stop whenever I'm passing, but I'll likely never see one.

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On a related note, I've seen a huge uptick in the number of Mississauga Rattlesnakes (Sistrurus catenatus) in the area over the last few years.
 

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One of my favorite snakes. Been trying to find one in Connecticut for the longest time. No luck, but I've heard they are out there!
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I LOVE these guys! I wouldn't call them "abundant," but they're all over Western New York, in some pretty interesting places! I have had the personal pleasure of encountering one once in Zoar Valley (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoar_Valley , https://zoarvalley.org/lawn-sign-campaign/), which seems to be much lesser known than Letchworth, but way better, in my opinion (& Letchworth is GORGEOUS). That second link is to an organization that's fighting efforts to log some of it, if anyone cares to check it out.
I also saw one, shockingly, sunning itself well past where the trail technically ends at the bottom of the Niagara Gorge, within roughly a mile of the base of Niagara Falls (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niagara_Gorge). I've been going there since I was a young child, & only saw that one when I was well into my 30's.
There's also a rest area along the westbound 86 just outside of Painted Post that was shut down & fenced off that has a den nearby. I stop whenever I'm passing, but I'll likely never see one.

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On a related note, I've seen a huge uptick in the number of Mississauga Rattlesnakes (Sistrurus catenatus) in the area over the last few years.
One of my favorite snakes. Been trying to find one in Connecticut for the longest time. No luck, but I've heard they are out there!
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Timbers are definitely not common.

There’s a place by me sorta where a mtn biker rides and as he goes off a rocky ledge he often hears rattles. It’s a den no doubt as he only hears it seasonly.

Not sure how far away the trail is nor how deep into woods it is.

I’ve only seen a Western Diamondback in the wild.

I used to visit a nature center as a kid that many species of rattlesnakes, including a sidewinder!

Jamie’sTs has a gorgeous species she’s currently breeding and I believe giving away for free to those with hots experience.
 

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One of my favorite snakes. Been trying to find one in Connecticut for the longest time. No luck, but I've heard they are out there!
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Timbers are definitely not common.

There’s a place by me sorta where a mtn biker rides and as he goes off a rocky ledge he often hears rattles. It’s a den no doubt as he only hears it seasonly.

Not sure how far away the trail is nor how deep into woods it is.

I’ve only seen a Western Diamondback in the wild.

I used to visit a nature center as a kid that many species of rattlesnakes, including a sidewinder!

Jamie’sTs has a gorgeous species she’s currently breeding and I believe giving away for free to those with hots experience.
Well where I'm at in NY, there's really only two possibilities if you hear a rattle, & that's either the Timber (RARE, or the Mississauga (not common, but much more prevalent). I used to keep hots... primarily Eyelash vipers (Bothriechis schlegelii), but also dabbled with Rhinoceros vipers (Bitis nasicornis, those guys were sweethearts), & even had a Gila named Poncho, LoL. This was before cell phones had cameras, so all my pics are on actual film somewhere...I wanted to post pics on your thread the other day, but got frustrated.
At any rate, I COULDN'T keep Timbers because they're NY native, & required a completely different permit, as per the NY DEC. Fast forward 24 years, & I can't even get my venomous licence again, as I'm not affiliated with a university, or work with them professionally. There's 5 reasons to hate this state for every 1 there is to move it. I'll have to see what she's working on...do a little window shopping. Unless I finally leave this state, or choose to be a criminal, there's no Timbers (or anything else hot) in my near future, unfortunately.
 

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Well where I'm at in NY, there's really only two possibilities if you hear a rattle, & that's either the Timber (RARE, or the Mississauga (not common, but much more prevalent). I used to keep hots... primarily Eyelash vipers (Bothriechis schlegelii), but also dabbled with Rhinoceros vipers (Bitis nasicornis, those guys were sweethearts), & even had a Gila named Poncho, LoL. This was before cell phones had cameras, so all my pics are on actual film somewhere...I wanted to post pics on your thread the other day, but got frustrated.
At any rate, I COULDN'T keep Timbers because they're NY native, & required a completely different permit, as per the NY DEC. Fast forward 24 years, & I can't even get my venomous licence again, as I'm not affiliated with a university, or work with them professionally. There's 5 reasons to hate this state for every 1 there is to move it. I'll have to see what she's working on...do a little window shopping. Unless I finally leave this state, or choose to be a criminal, there's no Timbers (or anything else hot) in my near future, unfortunately.
Lame state! The license is stupid how the criteria changed

Ya eye-lash are a good beginner’s hots, and quite pretty!

you should post those pics!
 

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Apparently there is 1 population of timber rattlesnakes somewhere in NH, I think up near the lakes region. Would be cool to see them repopulate more. I don't think we have a state reptile. I wish I could make it the the timber rattlesnake. Rattlesnakes as a whole are fascinating to me. No interest in keeping venomous snakes but if I had to pick one , I think there's a species of pygmy rattlesnakes native to somewhere else. That's probably what I'd go for. Mini rattlers!
 
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