Think you know T's? Guess this one.

[problemchildx]

Very unique spider you have there!

It looks like a hybrid between a Chromatapelma Cyanopubescenes and a Psalmopoeus sp. to me..(yeah yeah hybrids bad ok shh )

 

[redknee_freak]

wow, that is amazing looking baboon
are these availible in the pet trade

 

[Ice Cold Milk]

wow, that is amazing looking baboon
are these availible in the pet trade

No, of all South African species, only your horned baboons (Ceratogyrus spp.) which were exported a long time ago, and a handful of Harpactira are in the trade, and the Harp's are really only in Europe in small doses.

I think there might be a few people in the USA who have Augecephalus.

-=ICM=-

 

[redknee_freak]

thanks for ya reply

that is bad for not able to get them so easily

 

[T.Raab]

BTW: Who had ID the spider on species level?

 

[PhilR]

thanks for ya reply

that is bad for not able to get them so easily

RSA has a very strict policy. Essentially only export for scientific research is permitted.

 

[T.Raab]

I think there might be a few people in the USA who have Augecephalus.

The Augacephalus sp. in the hobby are not from RSA but from Mozambique.

AFAIK, Richard Gallon is/was heading up the re-classification of the genus, which is a painstaking process

Yes, Richard is revising the genus Harpactria. As long there is no key published, its not possible to ID a Harpactria species correct!

 

[Ice Cold Milk]

As long there is no key published, its not possible to ID a Harpactria species correct!

The spider pictured is called "Harpactira IceColdMilkiti" then.



Certainly one can speculate what the species is based on old specimens (in a museum somewhere??), or by geographic location, and with this species in particular, the very very unique coloration (i know color is something one shouldn't go by, but this is VERY unique)

-=ICM=-

 

[T.Raab]

HI ICM,

how many Harpactria species did you examine? Actual there are 16 described species in the genus. Lets see how many we have after the Revision.

 

[Ice Cold Milk]

Timo, what should we call these spiders that are found/seen in South Africa then??
A) We know they are Harpactira based on "discrete row of bristles below retrolateral cheliceral scopula present"


Should we name them after the geographical region? Because H. atra shares it's distribution and habitat with a couple other species of Harpactira... (and same with the species i get in my backyard... H. hamiltoni is one, and have also seen 2 possible other Harpactira species which i'm not sure what they are, and one Harpactirella species)

If we can't do that ... i wouldn't know what to do!!

 

[T.Raab]

Hi ICM,

A) We know they are Harpactira based on "discrete row of bristles below retrolateral cheliceral scopula present"

Look more to the scopulae prolateral!

Should we name them after the geographical region?

Yes, exactly. Call it Harpactira sp. "Location of Found" as far as you can ID it.