Think you know T's? Guess this one.

Ice Cold Milk

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Good luck with this one :):)
I know the positive ID, anyone else like to hazard a guess? Kudos to those who can also figure out just the Genus name.
Was time to re-house these buggers as they have severely outgrown their homes...so took a few pics!

Hint for the taxonomists: Check the third pic between the chelicarae, that will give you a hint at the genus.

-=ICM=-



 

Rydog

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Pterinochilus......or maybe Euathalus. Just my guesses, beautiful T by the way.:)
 

Rochelle

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At the risk of public humiliation...I'm guessing OBT.:rolleyes:
 

verry_sweet

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I’m pretty sure I know what it is, but I don’t want to ruin the fun :D
 

Ice Cold Milk

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Ok two guesses have been made correctly in terms of the genus... keep it coming.

It's not baviana.

nother helpful hint - this is a juvenile male, the males and females resemble the pics even to adulthood, and grow quite large.

No fair using Rick West's site :):) though it's not Harpactirella...
 

Hendrik C.

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Hi,

H. atra ;)

Best regards,
Hendrik Cornehl

Edit:
Maybe H. chrysogaster... but I'm quite sure it's H. atra.
 

Ice Cold Milk

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Hi,

H. atra ;)

Best regards,
Hendrik Cornehl

Edit:
Maybe H. chrysogaster... but I'm quite sure it's H. atra.
We have a winner! (Harpactira atra). No common name for this species...
Somehow I knew a German would win... they love baboon spiders more than the African people here do :)
 

PhilR

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I was going to say Harpactira sp. because of the apparent prolateral cheliceral scopulae in the third picture (and your location was a bit of a clue :D). I had no idea it was H. atra though :)

Hendrik was obviously several steps in front of me :D
 

Rochelle

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...apparantly I need to travel more.....:8o :D
Beautiful T.! (and I learned something, too.):worship:
 

Ice Cold Milk

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I was going to say Harpactira sp. because of the apparent prolateral cheliceral scopulae in the third picture (and your location was a bit of a clue :D). I had no idea it was H. atra though :)

Hendrik was obviously several steps in front of me :D
Ya, it's a pretty tough guess, i don't know of any pictures on the net of H. atra besides the one by Rick West (and another pic of my same spider by 'Taki F&T' here on ab.com). And then the entire genus Harpactira is pretty screwed up, so there really is no key...
 

PhilR

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I think that somehow some Hapractira spp. may have 'made their way' over to Europe, in fact I'm sure I saw some H. hamiltoni on a list a little while ago.

If I'm not mistaken (and it has been known), Dr. Ansie Dippenaar-Schoeman or the ARC-PPRI in Pretoria published a key a while ago. I'll have a look when I'm at home.
 

Ice Cold Milk

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I think that somehow some Hapractira spp. may have 'made their way' over to Europe, in fact I'm sure I saw some H. hamiltoni on a list a little while ago.

If I'm not mistaken (and it has been known), Dr. Ansie Dippenaar-Schoeman or the ARC-PPRI in Pretoria published a key a while ago. I'll have a look when I'm at home.

Ya, i've glanced at her book a while back... I don't own it, so I can't say if it has an actual key in it, but she certainly describes species and their geo location.

AFAIK, Richard Gallon is/was heading up the re-classification of the genus, which is a painstaking process :)

And yes, H. hamiltoni is definitely in Europe now (i've seen them living in the hills behind my house...very rare though). I've also seen A. junodi on people's lists.
 

PhilR

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Ya, i've glanced at her book a while back... I don't own it, so I can't say if it has an actual key in it, but she certainly describes species and their geo location.

AFAIK, Richard Gallon is/was heading up the re-classification of the genus, which is a painstaking process :)

And yes, H. hamiltoni is definitely in Europe now (i've seen them living in the hills behind my house...very rare though). I've also seen A. junodi on people's lists.
Had a look last night, and you're right, it doesn't have a Harpactira spp. key, only locations.

I actually live about 20 miles away from Richard. He's generally up to his neck in work, a very busy chap. I'm sure that what he's working on will be well worth the wait though :)

I keep A. junodi myself. There seem to be a few around and about at the moment (well females anyway!). Many of which are turning out to be A. breyeri by the looks of it.
 
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