Things toxic to Ts

[jgod790]

Thanks for the input guys. I live close to king of prussia. Was just there for work.

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And I don't think a wiki link to fire flies will mis lead anyone. I've found that wiki does tend to be accurate enough, when it comes to basic things. I doubt there is anything wrong with the fire fly page. Be nice to the experts. Some day they might give you advice that could possibly save one of your T's. It is also nice to be respectful to someone who has dedicated so much time and effort into the hobby.

 

[Keith B]

Hey getting roasted by friends is a time honored tradition at the Friar's Club!

That it is, friend, that it is. I can see fireflies possibly being toxic to eat. I think it's good to post here because it's not necessary to feed them to Ts and risk it, and some younger noobies might think it'd be cool to go grab some and see a glowy gory meal lol. I mean, think about it.. how cool is it to watch arboreal Ts snatch flying prey out of the air? Now add in a splattering firefly lol. Somebody was bound to try it if they haven't already.

 

[Ghost Dragon]

I would definitely recommend the Tarantula Keeper's Guide, it's pretty much the bible of T care. I understand vinegar isn't too good for them either.

 

[Keith B]

I would definitely recommend the Tarantula Keeper's Guide, it's pretty much the bible of T care. I understand vinegar isn't too good for them either.

Read thru the thread thoroughly please. I included that vinegar vapors are covered in TKG with my initial post about cigarette smoke. There's some people on here that get really irked by redundancy. Save yourself from the flames

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Thanks for the input guys. I live close to king of prussia. Was just there for work.

Sweet! Seems like T enthusiasts are extremely few and far between around here... :cry:

 

[ClosetCollector]

Thanks for the input guys. I live close to king of prussia. Was just there for work.

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And I don't think a wiki link to fire flies will mis lead anyone. I've found that wiki does tend to be accurate enough, when it comes to basic things. I doubt there is anything wrong with the fire fly page. Be nice to the experts. Some day they might give you advice that could possibly save one of your T's. It is also nice to be respectful to someone who has dedicated so much time and effort into the hobby.

I was not doing it to be disrespectful or mean simply stating that the Wikipedia is in no way a respectable source of information. The article on fireflies may or may not be accurate, that is why I personally do not use it as a source of information.

I would have found it much more helpful to read an article pertaining to Firefly toxins, lucibufagins. Fireflies of the genus Photinus are poisonous their bodies contain lucibufagins. Anyhow, I suppose this among other reasons is why feeding wild caught insects to tarantulas, and any other insect eating pets is not recommended.

 

[jgod790]

Amen to that. Why take the risk when crickets are a dollar a dozen?

 

[ClosetCollector]

Amen to that. Why take the risk when crickets are a dollar a dozen?

Right, but I'll admit when I got my first T's I was completely ignorant, I thought I could feed them whatever I caught outside...lol In my own defense I just got thrown into the hobby by my fiancé who had 4 lp EWLS shipped to our house without my knowledge!

 

[jgod790]

That's ok, we all have made mistakes. I had a little electric water fall in my g rosea enclosure, and would feed it wild caught praying mantis. Not proud of that at all. The one mantis put up a good fight and made my ppoor girl bleed :-(

 

[viper69]

That's ok, we all have made mistakes. I had a little electric water fall in my g rosea enclosure, and would feed it wild caught praying mantis. Not proud of that at all. The one mantis put up a good fight and made my ppoor girl bleed :-(

You fed it Praying Mantis really??? Why would you do that??? Nothing like purposefully killing off beneficial insects.

 

[Driller64]

You fed it Praying Mantis really??? Why would you do that??? Nothing like purposefully killing off beneficial insects.

I agree. As a person who has kept and bred many wild caught praying mantises, I would never feed any of T's a praying mantis even if they were non toxic to them.

 

[viper69]

I agree. As a person who has kept and bred many wild caught praying mantises, I would never feed any of T's a praying mantis even if they were non toxic to them.

Are they not the coolest insect! Look like little alien hunters from space. The species from other parts of the world are so incredibly camoflaged too, pinks, whites blending in with flowers, like crab spiders. I saw some from another country recently, and I swear their camo was good, they didn't even look like a living object, they looked like twigs.

 

[Driller64]

Look like little alien hunters from space.

Their ooths also look like alien egg sacs

 

[viper69]

Their ooths also look like alien egg sacs

That's true..good point!

 

[jgod790]

Like I said. Not proud of it. I was a stupid young teenager.

 

[cold blood]

What about asain lady beetles? I often see small slpiders eating them, but im obviously not following little spiders outside around to see if they're affected?

 

[suntiger117]

I fed my g. rosea multiple wild caught grasshoppers. I found that they are a very good meal and a lot of needed proteins or nutrients are in them. They're fun to catch too! And watching the brutal take-downs on them is much much more satisfying than plain old defenseless crickets or superworms! As the one guy stated earlier about the praying mantis; I haven't done that but I have tried stink bugs but the t refuses to eat them. I WONDER WHY?

 

[jgod790]

I would never feed a praying mantis to a T again. As I already said, I was a young stupid teenager. Emphasis on STUPID.

 

[just1moreT]

I fed my g. rosea multiple wild caught grasshoppers. I found that they are a very good meal and a lot of needed proteins or nutrients are in them. They're fun to catch too! And watching the brutal take-downs on them is much much more satisfying than plain old defenseless crickets or superworms! As the one guy stated earlier about the praying mantis; I haven't done that but I have tried stink bugs but the t refuses to eat them. I WONDER WHY?

You do know that grass hoppers get alot parasites in them , im not really sure if they can pass into the T or not , I have actually pulled worms out of the adomens of grass hoppers that where 3 times as long as the hopper , yeah stink bugs what a defense that is lol

 

[suntiger117]

Hey you have to think about it, the g. rosea is such a well built an adaptable t. At least mine is! However, as you get down to the more tropical ts; they need more attention and precise environment. Hmmm, actually that's probably not as accurate as I thought. Can someone help expand on this lol? My thought train just stopped :\

 

[Keith B]

Hey you have to think about it, the g. rosea is such a well built an adaptable t. At least mine is! However, as you get down to the more tropical ts; they need more attention and precise environment. Hmmm, actually that's probably not as accurate as I thought. Can someone help expand on this lol? My thought train just stopped :\

Well the topic is drifting ever so slightly to WC prey, but it still can fall into the realm of toxic. I don't find it beneficial for me to seek out exotic prey items for my Ts. I've raised all of mine from slings on feeder crickets and only crickets with no issues. No dehydration, no sickness, not a single stuck molt, etc. I'll throw in a fuzzy mouse with a large T once in a blue moon. Otherwise they get crickets, and I've seen no indication that they can't grow up just fine on one type of nutrition. Many of the so-called "tropical" Ts, don't exactly desire to be tropical. That's just where the powers that be has put them. Besides a few select genus that need special attention (i.e. Theraphosa with moisture, Avicularia with ventilation), most of the Ts from tropical regions do just fine in near arid conditions.