Theraposidae sp mandarina

[Spinnenfritzi]

Have you seen this new species?
I think it looks beautiful but i can't find any care sheets for it.
Would you buy a sling of a species if there is so little information available?

 

[viper69]

It hasn’t been characterized yet unfortunately so it’s a genus at best.

Seen a few pics, I’d pass, there’s much more pretty ones for me

 

[cold blood]

I think it looks beautiful but i can't find any care sheets for it.
Would you buy a sling of a species if there is so little information available?

There are only a small few ways to keep ts...one shouldn't need a "care sheet", in fact, reading care sheets will only serve you one purpose, and that is to make you a worse keeper....care sheets are not only useless, they're total garbage and suggest focus in places your focus is never needed...like specific temp and humidity numbers for example. Avoid them like the plague and you will be better off.

 

[Spinnenfritzi]

There are only a small few ways to keep ts...one shouldn't need a "care sheet", in fact,

Don't get me wrong i am on the same page there. Just the lack of information is irritating. The information i was interested in is country of origin, adult size and maybee life expactancy.

 

[AphonopelmaTX]

Don't get me wrong i am on the same page there. Just the lack of information is irritating. The information i was interested in is country of origin, adult size and maybee life expactancy.

You would have to communicate with the individual selling them to get the information you are looking for. Hopefully whoever is selling them knows something about them.

To answer one of your questions in the original post. Yes, I would and do keep species that do not have any information on them. As @cold blood states, there are only a a handful of ways to keep tarantulas. What I did when I bought my Theraphosinae "Mega carapace"- which has no info on their care on the internet- was to set them up with an obligatory hiding place, damp soil, let the soil dry out, and observe any change in behavior as it dried. I was then able to determine that wherever these "mega carapace" tarantulas come from they like damp conditions, are very strong eaters, reclusive, and have a nervous disposition. After some searching, I found a European seller that listed their country of origin as just Colombia.

 

[Dry Desert]

There are only a small few ways to keep ts...one shouldn't need a "care sheet", in fact, reading care sheets will only serve you one purpose, and that is to make you a worse keeper....care sheets are not only useless, they're total garbage and suggest focus in places your focus is never needed...like specific temp and humidity numbers for example. Avoid them like the plague and you will be better off.

That statement is all very fine for experienced keepers with years of trial and error behind them .

Very early care sheets written by knowledgeable people are the very life blood of where we are today.

Don't tell me you never searched for information either on line or in books in the early dark days of exotic creature keeping.

Even searching for information concerning locality, temperature, humidity etc. will provide a care sheet, be it in a different format.

Good care sheets are invaluable even today.

I personally have searched long and hard, and found using details from care sheets coupled with some of my own observations, have found that my Moroccan Salamanders prefer it slightly drier and can happily tolerate temperatures higher than the normal range.

 

[cold blood]

That statement is all very fine for experienced keepers with years of trial and error behind them

Inexperienced keepers probably shouldn't be buying such tarantulas.

Very early care sheets written by knowledgeable people are the very life blood of where we are today.

Early...yeah, meaning outdated by decades.

Don't tell me you never searched for information either on line or in books in the early dark days of exotic creature keeping.

We all did before we learned of their utter uselessness.

Good care sheets are invaluable even today.

care sheets today are the bane of the hobby

 

[Spinnenfritzi]

I think one should not be too dogmatic with his way of caring and always be open for new ideas, perspectives and new scientific findings.

they like damp conditions, are very strong eaters, reclusive, and have a nervous disposition.

What was the change in behaviour when it dried out that led you to that conclusion?

 

[AphonopelmaTX]

What was the change in behaviour when it dried out that led you to that conclusion?

When the soil in the enclosure was damp, the tarantulas would be outside of the burrow/ hide and eat regularly. At the slightest disturbance to the enclosure, they would quickly retreat back into the burrow/ hide and come out again after some time had passed. When the soil got too dry they would stay within the burrow/ hide, draw their legs close to their body, and refuse to eat. When water was added, they would spread the chelicerae and drink directly from the soil and basically come back to life then resume eating. After noticing they had a routine, I knew a molt was coming when the soil was damp and they retreated to the burrow and stopped eating. Or in the case of a refusal to use a burrow/ hide, eating stopped but otherwise the tarantulas looked fine. This is all in contrast to tarantulas from drier or seasonal regions of the world where there is no noticeable change in routine when the soil is damp or dry.

 

[Mike Withrow]

I think one should not be too dogmatic with his way of caring and always be open for new ideas, perspectives and new scientific findings.

Nothing wrong with that way of thinking.
Ive never searched for or looked at a "care sheet" whatever that is supposed to be. Other than information here on this site. I just don't see the point of taking off with bits of information from someone I don't have a clue who they are or any of their capabilities.

I didn't just jump on here and take off flying either. Everything came with time searching and reading on here. Eventually I found the people that I felt I needed to connect with if I had a serious question.

For example. When I first started keeping my own Avics . Simple little cute friendly right?
After she had her first molt in my care and put some size on. Not at all. I knew the person to ask for or go and search for their posts from time spent on here. Right at the top dang near the beginning I had my answer .

Rookie mistake lack of cover. I had plants in her enclosure but not high enough nor enough there she didn't feel secure and was ready to show that behavior. Pretty odd for any avic I've been around and there was no thought about wow cool man I've got a spicy avic.
No I knew that was not the case and it was certainly something I had and hadn't done in setting up her enclosure.
It's very possible I'm wrong because I don't think I've ever searched on here to much about her. I have a chiliobracys species that I can't recall anyone posting about keeping personally on here but I still keep her like any other chiliobracys.
FB is another place I do not use for anything spider related. See the post made on here about pollen harmful to tarantulas that started by a genius on there.

 

[Poecilotherion33]

I love how this discussion ended up being about egos and who si wrong and who is right, leaving the original question poorly answered

... BTW @Spinnenfritzi , so far I haven't found any robust information regarding this species.

I'm about to receive a spiderling so, If I come to find anything, I'll let you know!