The Idolomantis Project

MrGhostMantis

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I’ve heard a lot about this species an have wanted to try it for a while. Well, here we go.

About 2 months ago, I was selling some Hierodula membranacea, and I was reached out to by DeShawn from Mantid Kingdom, one of the best sites you can buy from.
I figured out a deal with him and sent him 92 Hierodula for some store credit and a bit of money. I just kinda sat on that for a while then a few weeks ago, saw he had some Idolomantis diabolica for sale. I had heard so much about how hard this species was to keep and breed and I just HAD to try it out of curiosity.

I did my research, set up enclosures, and used my store credit on five L2 Devils flowers (and flies, and enclosures, the total was $175, YEESH). All came healthy 3 weeks later when he could ship due to the extreme temperatures, with 2 extras included. I was pretty ecstatic over the fact that I was FINALLY getting a chance to work with a difficult rare species like this after a years of mantis keeping!

My main goal in the end is to breed them, as most of these are from imported ooths coming from Africa. The little monsters are thriving right now at L2, soon to be L3, and chowing down on BBF every other day. I’ve been keeping them at 75° pretty constantly although temp sometimes heads up into the low 80’s which is fine for this species. Some people say to keep them hot and dry, other say room temp and moist, I’m right in the middle. I haven’t named any yet, I don’t want to get too attached just in case...you know...they all die. I doubt that will happen but you never know. It’s been nearly a week since I got them and they are still happy and active. I have them in 32oz modified deli cups right now so they can climb properly as they lack pullvi in their feet (correct me if that is spelled wrong). Fingers crossed in 6 months I’ll have some fertile oothecae!

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MrGhostMantis

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UPDATE TIME:

All but one of the Idolomantis diabolica have molted to L3! All doing well, eating well, and acting normal.
Hopefully, all molts continue like this. Not much of an update without pictures but I'm planning to do a photoshoot with them soon.
I've found with the right care these are very easy to keep!
 

Ferrachi

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UPDATE TIME:

All but one of the Idolomantis diabolica have molted to L3! All doing well, eating well, and acting normal.
Hopefully, all molts continue like this. Not much of an update without pictures but I'm planning to do a photoshoot with them soon.
I've found with the right care these are very easy to keep!
This is awesome ! I'm waiting for one to finish it's 2nd most before I can pick it up... can't wait :)
 

MrGhostMantis

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This is awesome ! I'm waiting for one to finish it's 2nd most before I can pick it up... can't wait :)
Make sure you know what you are doing with mantids before getting these, I've been in mantids for a while. That's the only reason I'm doing this with ease. Mantids are a lot different from arachnids ;)

If you have any questions to ask about them or how to prepare for them feel free to!
 

MrGhostMantis

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Glad to hear things are going smoothly! What are you feeding them?
Bottle flies! That's all they will accept! No interest in roaches, super worm chunks, just flies lol! From what I can tell, they grow very slowly so it's gonna be a while before moths and butterflies are brought into the picture.
 

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Bottle flies! That's all they will accept! No interest in roaches, super worm chunks, just flies lol! From what I can tell, they grow very slowly so it's gonna be a while before moths and butterflies are brought into the picture.
I've heard they can be attracted to glass climbing roaches if they're appropriately sized, might be worth a shot if you're ever low on flies. Do you culture them, or just buy the pupa/maggots?
 

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Make sure you know what you are doing with mantids before getting these, I've been in mantids for a while. That's the only reason I'm doing this with ease. Mantids are a lot different from arachnids ;)

If you have any questions to ask about them or how to prepare for them feel free to!
I really appreciate your offer and will definitely take you up on this so be prepared when I start flooding your inbox... :rofl:

I've had 2 of the M religiosa a very very long time ago that were both WC and now I have a H coronatus that just had it's 3rd molt last night. A lot of fun !! :)
 

MrGhostMantis

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I've heard they can be attracted to glass climbing roaches if they're appropriately sized, might be worth a shot if you're ever low on flies. Do you culture them, or just buy the pupa/maggots?
I have already tried lobster roaches, they showed no interest because it would freeze every time the mantis looked at it, thanks for thinking outside the box thought :)

I just buy the pupae, I may eventually try to culture them but it is a very stinky process and unless you are prepared for the stench, it wouldn't be worth it.
 

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I really appreciate your offer and will definitely take you up on this so be prepared when I start flooding your inbox... :rofl:

I've had 2 of the M religiosa a very very long time ago that were both WC and now I have a H coronatus that just had it's 3rd molt last night. A lot of fun !! :)
Mantis religiosa is a very easy species but young Hymenopus can definitely be a pain because of their proneness to bacterial infections.
 

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Mantis religiosa is a very easy species but young Hymenopus can definitely be a pain because of their proneness to bacterial infections.
That's good to know... so gotta even be careful where the feeders come from too
 

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I have already tried lobster roaches, they showed no interest because it would freeze every time the mantis looked at it, thanks for thinking outside the box thought :)

I just buy the pupae, I may eventually try to culture them but it is a very stinky process and unless you are prepared for the stench, it wouldn't be worth it.
You should try Hemithyrsocera spp. roaches, they're the most fly like roaches you'll find, great at climbing and flying, very active, and not terribly flat either, so they make great mantis feeders. Very easy to breed too, at least, H.palliata is.
 

MrGhostMantis

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You should try Hemithyrsocera spp. roaches, they're the most fly like roaches you'll find, great at climbing and flying, very active, and not terribly flat either, so they make great mantis feeders. Very easy to breed too, at least, H.palliata is.
No idea where to get some, but thank you!
 

paumotu

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You should try Hemithyrsocera spp. roaches, they're the most fly like roaches you'll find, great at climbing and flying, very active, and not terribly flat either, so they make great mantis feeders. Very easy to breed too, at least, H.palliata is.
I’d keep some of those just to stare at them lol
 
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