tarantulas in apartment issues?

[mouse]

i live in a low-income apt. we have a no pet rule here also. but they also let ppl have a small dog or cat with a doctors note and pet deposit. but that only applies to cats or dogs. small critters in cages are ok (hamster/bird/ fish (no more than a 10 gallon tank). i asked if a tarantula would be ok. after a funny look i got told he can't qualify it as a dog so it would be ok as a caged pet, but i am only allowed 2 pets since i have kids).
just ask if a small caged pet would be ok.
and with the spraying, that is nowerdays mostly a gel that is applied around the cupboards in kitchen and bathroom.

 

[ilovebugs]

I'd also be very careful about any possible pest treatments the apartment may do. Many apartment companies will by default treat for these things, and the products they use may hurt your Ts.

sorry, I forgot to check back for replies.

They do spray for pests occasionally, but not inside the apartments.

 

[ilovebugs]

Think of it this way, what would they do if they did find out...worst case? they'd make you get rid of them, which is what you are contemplating anyway.

well, actually I believe they would make me pay the $500 and start charging $50 a month.

and as far as the "only cats and dogs"
my wife asked when we came across that part on the lease if it even included a goldfish jokingly and he was like "yes, it does."

as unlikely as it is, if they found out that someone had stopped by to visit with a pet, they would charge us.

I think it is just so they can be mad if something gets destroyed.

 

[ilovebugs]

i live in an apartment with 500$ deductible and "pet rent" but it applies to dogs and cats


by definition a tarantula is not a pet since it is not domesticated and isn't frequently kept.


either way. they spray the doorway and not the actual apartment. so i've never had a problem with spray, found 1 dead escaped cricket one time near the door.

Other than that.. I keep mine in a closet like area near my bathroom, with a display cabinet, and i've never been bothered.

sounds like we live in the same place haha.

Don't tell them. Just don't.

There is a chance that you have one of those ultra-hip, friendly, open-minded landlords who just wants their tenants to be happy and pay the rent on time. Or, you could be like the other 99% of us apartment-dwellers, and have a landlord who is an arachnophobic, misinformed, grouchy sewer matron who can't stand to let a tenant get away with even the smallest of things.

Also remember, you're not talking about some small, harmless caged pet. You're talking about a hideous, giant, evil spider with venom that can kill a man in thirty seconds flat; who will destroy everything in its path until it finds a victim to kill and devour. Yeah, some people think like that.

Think about it this way. If you tell them, they will have no problem just saying no outright, since it might sound like a bad idea to them. But if you get everything set up and they, by the odd chance, find out, you will already have evidence as to why it should no big deal that you keep your T's.

Also, I agree with Radamanthys; DEFINITELY don't mention roaches. If your landlord does find out and asks what tarantulas eat, tell them you feed your T's rats and "the occasional stray kitten", and that if they want your T's gone, they'll have to come pick them up themselves.

In any event, my vote is "don't tell them".

I like your plan.

 

[ilovebugs]

Sounds exactly like my neighborhood. I live in a 1-bedroom apartment with no AC, no ventilation, faulty pipes, 2-prong electrical outlets, and only one washer and dryer for the whole complex. It costs $940 a month. I ****ing hate this state.

Tuwin, don't be surprised if I call you asking to move back in sometime in the next year...

that is insane.

we have a 2 bedroom, 2 bath a spot for a washer and dryer(haven't found a good deal yet) and we pay $599

I wish we had a laundry mat on site though. for now at least. the nearest coin laundry is like 10 mins away. I guess the city wants to keep scum like me out of town haha.

 

[Andrew101]

Hi guys, i know this is a old thread.I need some tips here for hiding my Ts, so i'm in this college program for high functioning autistic adults. My apartment complex has no restriction on having tanked animals, but because my apartment is rented under the program even though i pay the monthly fee i cannot own any pets including tanked animals. I have a T hidden in my drawer for like half the day, reason for that is the coordinators can come in our apartments without our permission to spot check every now and then. So i fear that if i were to leave my T enclosure out 1 day, they would find it and make me get rd of it.. Any advice in hiding Ts in my situation? i also really badly want to get more Ts but i can't cause of this situation..

 

[ediblepain]

You CAN hide the T's in the closet because I believe they will need a warrant to search. And I don't think they can get a warrant to search your personal belongings for a T, especially if they don't know it's there in the first place.

Only police need warrents.

 

[Jeff23]

Hi guys, i know this is a old thread.I need some tips here for hiding my Ts, so i'm in this college program for high functioning autistic adults. My apartment complex has no restriction on having tanked animals, but because my apartment is rented under the program even though i pay the monthly fee i cannot own any pets including tanked animals. I have a T hidden in my drawer for like half the day, reason for that is the coordinators can come in our apartments without our permission to spot check every now and then. So i fear that if i were to leave my T enclosure out 1 day, they would find it and make me get rd of it.. Any advice in hiding Ts in my situation? i also really badly want to get more Ts but i can't cause of this situation..

They will enter your apartment without permission. You likely signed that away with the contract.

Use Sterilite or other generic plastic tub. Sterilite makes some that are fairly clear. Give it plenty ventilation. Find a cloth that allows lots of air flow. Drape it over the container(s).

Make sure the container(s) is off the beaten path away from things they may need to service (not near air filter change locations, breaker boxes, utility access items, fire extinguisher, etc.).

 

[Jeff23]

Hi guys, i know this is a old thread.I need some tips here for hiding my Ts, so i'm in this college program for high functioning autistic adults. My apartment complex has no restriction on having tanked animals, but because my apartment is rented under the program even though i pay the monthly fee i cannot own any pets including tanked animals. I have a T hidden in my drawer for like half the day, reason for that is the coordinators can come in our apartments without our permission to spot check every now and then. So i fear that if i were to leave my T enclosure out 1 day, they would find it and make me get rd of it.. Any advice in hiding Ts in my situation? i also really badly want to get more Ts but i can't cause of this situation..

What size and species Tarantula do you have?

 

[Walker253]

I assume @Andrew101 lives in California. If not, look up your state's landlord tenant law. @Jeff23, I don't know about South Carolina and I think you're wrong. In most states, a landlord cannot enter an occupied residence unless it's an emergency without sufficient notice. It must be reasonable and that is usually 24 hours. Here's a link to the California page (about half way down): http://www.dca.ca.gov/publications/landlordbook/living-in.shtml

 

[Andrea82]

I assume @Andrew101 lives in California. If not, look up your state's landlord tenant law. @Jeff23, I don't know about South Carolina and I think you're wrong. In most states, a landlord cannot enter an occupied residence unless it's an emergency without sufficient notice. It must be reasonable and that is usually 24 hours. Here's a link to the California page (about half way down): http://www.dca.ca.gov/publications/landlordbook/living-in.shtml

Not sure, but for people living at a place especially for people with autism, rules and orders from that centre have precedence over state law. OP lives in a facility from what I've gathered and is not simply renting a place

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Hi guys, i know this is a old thread.I need some tips here for hiding my Ts, so i'm in this college program for high functioning autistic adults. My apartment complex has no restriction on having tanked animals, but because my apartment is rented under the program even though i pay the monthly fee i cannot own any pets including tanked animals. I have a T hidden in my drawer for like half the day, reason for that is the coordinators can come in our apartments without our permission to spot check every now and then. So i fear that if i were to leave my T enclosure out 1 day, they would find it and make me get rd of it.. Any advice in hiding Ts in my situation? i also really badly want to get more Ts but i can't cause of this situation..

If you think that the risk is/could been really serious the best advice I can give you is to get rid (even at a temporary level) of your Theraphosidae, maybe giving him/her to a friend or a familiar.

For instance, during the arachnid ban that happened in Italy (I'm eye-talian) I forgot to cough cough let the authorities cough know about my arachnids only for a matter of unlucky coincidences but thing is, no one had the power to 'jump' in my house without an 'invite' (like Vampires).

Ask to yourself if that (keeping said spider) is worth the risk, considering everything, what you can 'lose' etc

 

[Walker253]

Not sure, but for people living at a place especially for people with autism, rules and orders from that centre have precedence over state law. OP lives in a facility from what I've gathered and is not simply renting a place

Reminder to self, don't type before the first cup of coffee of the day. Thanks Andrea.

 

[Jeff23]

I assume @Andrew101 lives in California. If not, look up your state's landlord tenant law. @Jeff23, I don't know about South Carolina and I think you're wrong. In most states, a landlord cannot enter an occupied residence unless it's an emergency without sufficient notice. It must be reasonable and that is usually 24 hours. Here's a link to the California page (about half way down): http://www.dca.ca.gov/publications/landlordbook/living-in.shtml

This is not true for any state when I lived in apartments, but I wouldn't be surprised if more "liberal" states give better protection for the occupant. I have lived in Idaho (long time ago), Georgia, and South Carolina. They say they will leave notices to warn of planned entry, but the contract states they can come in with no notification for certain situations. And they have to be able to do this. What will they do for a water leak on the third floor? Wait for a court order?

They give notices that fire extinguishers will be inspected on certain dates. Heat/air unit filters will be changed on certain dates. The notices they do are placed on your front door. Sometimes they fail to provide a notice. It would be hard to argue in court that you didn't get the notice.

 

[Andrew101]

What size and species Tarantula do you have?

I have a A.seemani at the moment, but i'm planning to get a King Baboon soon but still thinking about it but i'm definitely might get some dwarf species. I was thinking of a king baboon cause they grow very slow so by the time it's an adult, i'll be out of the program.

 

[Andrew101]

If you think that the risk is/could been really serious the best advice I can give you is to get rid (even at a temporary level) of your Theraphosidae, maybe giving him/her to a friend or a familiar.

For instance, during the arachnid ban that happened in Italy (I'm eye-talian) I forgot to cough cough let the authorities cough know about my arachnids only for a matter of unlucky coincidences but thing is, no one had the power to 'jump' in my house without an 'invite' (like Vampires).

Ask to yourself if that (keeping said spider) is worth the risk, considering everything, what you can 'lose' etc

Yup i live in CA, i know that by the law you have to be notified by the landlord before they come in to check on you. Problem is because the apartments are rented out by the program i'm in, they have their own rules for the apartments. I didn't even know they were allowed to come in without my permission till i discovered them in my apartment and questioned them and i apparently signed the contract which also stated that they have the right to check in without my consent or presence...

 

[Andrew101]

What size and species Tarantula do you have?

my A.seemani is about 3 inches

 

[Chris LXXIX]

I didn't even know they were allowed to come in without my permission till i discovered them in my apartment and questioned them and i apparently signed the contract which also stated that they have the right to check in without my consent or presence...

Eh, my man... if things are that way, personally, being you, I wouldn't risk.

 

[Trenor]

In most states, a landlord cannot enter an occupied residence unless it's an emergency without sufficient notice. It must be reasonable and that is usually 24 hours.

This is not true for any state when I lived in apartments, but I wouldn't be surprised if more "liberal" states give better protection for the occupant. I have lived in Idaho (long time ago), Georgia, and South Carolina. They say they will leave notices to warn of planned entry, but the contract states they can come in with no notification for certain situations. And they have to be able to do this. What will they do for a water leak on the third floor? Wait for a court order?

That would fall under the emergency part of the clause and they can enter.

Can they roll in anytime they want to do non emergency maintenance (without notice) or just to look about? No, I'm not aware of any state that allows this.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Sucks however that, rules or not, contract or not, someone can jump when he/she wants inside another one room. I only accept that when enters drugs/crime/terrorism and so on.

We discuss about online privacy these days but isn't that a 'bye bye privacy' as well, one moment?