Tarantulas Eating Raw Meat?

[Ultum4Spiderz]

No I totally understand. We fed the feeder insects we have have because
A. They are cheap and easy to raise so the feeder industry can make a profit and stay in business and supply us with more feeder insects.
B. Other feeder insects aren't legal. In Europe they feed locusts/grasshoppers. The USDA won't let us ship grasshoppers due to the threat they pose to agriculture. Unfortunate because locusts/grasshoppers make great feeders. I've tried some myself.

Sure T's are opportunistic as are many predators. As are sharks. Do aquariums feed their captive sharks pigs or horses? They do not.
Should I start raising hummingbirds as feeders?
Should I start feeding my Varanus jobiensis rice cakes, tofu, and cantaloupe? No. It's not their natural diet.
What percentage of wild T's diets is compromised of beef? The percentage is so small and minute it's almost infinitesimal. It's predominantly insects and sure occasionally some other vertebrate prey such as lizards or frogs. Anyone feeding lizards or frogs on a regular basis? Rarely do keepers even feed pinky mice, usually due to the mess and smell, not to mention the ethical concerns. So what makes beef different. This is taking into account that T's are far more likely to come across a rodent than a juicy New York Strip insitu.
So what's the point? We can't say with 100% that beef is helpful. We can say it's thought not to be harmful, but again, no one knows for sure. We can say tens of thousands of T's have been raised on feeder insects for generations.
Now if you'll excuse me I have to go fix my collection of Varanus lizards some rice cakes, tofu, and cantaloupe for dinner.
@TechnoGeek @AphonopelmaTX
Either of you going take your most prized T and feed it beef and let it drink honey water?

Hummingbird feeders haha the internet would love that if you made videos and actually did it , I know just sarcasm.
some keepers in the past have fed Ts literally any pray species possible including lizards etc and other odd stuff. And mice despite the dangers of-feeding them.

 

[Pana Lemontzis]

I remember that too, and yes, there was no impact on growth rate. The Vegans though were apoplectic!


Reading the article you attached and then clicking on other links, like you do, one thing that came up and something I have yet to try was that a scientist claimed the main prey of the Theraphosa blondi was in fact.... earth worms!
I am always worried about taking insects or other live prey from my garden as you never know where they have been or what they could have picked up. I never use insecticedes/pesticides in my garden but can't say the same for my neighbours so I don't take the chance. Earth worms though do intrigue me now

I always feed them earthworms from my backyard and they love them, of course i dont overdo it, they have high calcium (A genics)

 

[Matt Man]

I always feed them earthworms from my backyard and they love them, of course i dont overdo it, they have high calcium (A genics)

is your backyard 100% guaranteed, free of pesticides / herbicides etc....? How about your neighbors yards? Because otherwise you could be poisoning your Ts

 

[Pana Lemontzis]

is your backyard 100% guaranteed, free of pesticides / herbicides etc....? How about your neighbors yards? Because otherwise you could be poisoning your Ts

Ive been doing it for so many years without an issue. I currently have 12 a geniculatas that only feed in backyard bugs lol

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

Ive been doing it for so many years without an issue. I currently have 12 a geniculatas that only feed in backyard bugs lol

make a thread with pictures of what you’re feeding your Ts I’m interested in seeing that. And yes you can upload mouse feeding videos to YouTube it’s allowed.
What do you have a mouse farm in your backyard?
pesticides eradicated most the big moths and caterpillars here. I’d not be able to feed a single spider with wc prey.

is your backyard 100% guaranteed, free of pesticides / herbicides etc....? How about your neighbors yards? Because otherwise you could be poisoning your Ts

I think he’s pulling our legs no way can you feed 30+ Ts with wc pray unless you lived in the Amazon jungle.

 

[Pana Lemontzis]

make a thread with pictures of what you’re feeding your Ts I’m interested in seeing that. And yes you can upload mouse feeding videos to YouTube it’s allowed.
What do you have a mouse farm in your backyard?
pesticides eradicated most the big moths and caterpillars here. I’d not be able to feed a single spider with wc prey.

I think he’s pulling our legs no way can you feed 30+ Ts with wc pray unless you lived in the Amazon jungle.

I cant upload two spider fighting. There was another channel called futballs id talk with to who got his account revoled after a third strike for posting bug fights. I now have 20 Ts all a genics or Lps. Its not that hard to feed them with prey. Theres long grass and its very easy to find many grasshoppers. Also the mice arent always ones i find. Some i get from the pet store.

 

[Matt Man]

make a thread with pictures of what you’re feeding your Ts I’m interested in seeing that. And yes you can upload mouse feeding videos to YouTube it’s allowed.
What do you have a mouse farm in your backyard?
pesticides eradicated most the big moths and caterpillars here. I’d not be able to feed a single spider with wc prey.

I think he’s pulling our legs no way can you feed 30+ Ts with wc pray unless you lived in the Amazon jungle.

I seriously could gather that many WC crickets from my yard if I put in the effort
I have a ton of them

 

[Pana Lemontzis]

I seriously could gather that many WC crickets from my yard if I put in the effort
I have a ton of them

Grasshoppers/locusts are the easiest. Where theres long grass. Its swarmed.

 

[Matt Man]

Grasshoppers/locusts are the easiest. Where theres long grass. Its swarmed.

under any surface in my yard. Take the cover off the patio furniture and there's 50. Never use them, I have no idea what they have been exposed to, and the risk of poisoning my Ts is not worth the 2$, not even factoring in time/energy it would take to collect them

 

[paumotu]

Wild food has never been an issue for me, though I live near an area of wilderness. It is best to avoid wild food if you live near a park or surburban arwa you know frequently sprays of course.

 

[Pana Lemontzis]

Wild food has never been an issue for me, though I live near an area of wilderness. It is best to avoid wild food if you live near a park or surburban arwa you know frequently sprays of course.

I was driving near the city area the other day and i saw a truck spraying everyones grass lmao.

under any surface in my yard. Take the cover off the patio furniture and there's 50. Never use them, I have no idea what they have been exposed to, and the risk of poisoning my Ts is not worth the 2$, not even factoring in time/energy it would take to collect them

Its safe if u live away from city

 

[Matt Man]

Its safe if u live away from city

if your home is isolated

if you have neighbors, unless you know what they use in the yard it is a gamble
Expensive T vs $2. No brainer

Neighbor's gardner treated their hedges along our properties with some nasty stuff. Made all 3 of my planter boxes, Lemon Tree and Fig Tree inedible.
And they are good neighbors, their gardeners...not so much

 

[Pana Lemontzis]

if your home is isolated

if you have neighbors, unless you know what they use in the yard it is a gamble
Expensive T vs $2. No brainer

Neighbor's gardner treated their hedges along our properties with some nasty stuff. Made all 3 of my planter boxes, Lemon Tree and Fig Tree inedible.
And they are good neighbors, their gardeners...not so much

Well yea u live in the city i wouldnt do it. I like watching Ts hunt different inverts thats why i do it. But if lived in the city i wondnt be doing it either

 

[Matt Man]

Well yea u live in the city i wouldnt do it. I like watching Ts hunt different inverts thats why i do it. But if lived in the city i wondnt be doing it either

understood. so do you live remote? No neighbors for quite some distance?

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

understood. so do you live remote? No neighbors for quite some distance?

Rumor is it one roach species is now legal in Canada but is this fake news? Some guy on YouTube said so,

 

[catboyeuthanasia]

I'd be more worried about parasites and pathogens than pesticides when feeding wild prey. I have some house spiders hanging around my office I can use as 'poison tasters' if it comes to that though.

 

[Pana Lemontzis]

Rumor is it one roach species is now legal in Canada but is this fake news? Some guy on YouTube said so,

Never seen this. Very cool

 

[Tbone192]

I'd be more worried about parasites and pathogens than pesticides when feeding wild prey. I have some house spiders hanging around my office I can use as 'poison tasters' if it comes to that though.

My only issue with this, wild spiders may have developed a resistance to certain pesticides over generations.