Tarantula venom for sale

[Chris LXXIX]

Searching online i found this site:
http://www.alphabiotoxine.be

They are a Belgium company specialized in venoms, they sell venom and pure toxins for research and pharma. industry.

They have a lot of Theraphosidae species, from NW to OW; a lot of the hobby classics T's of course.

This is a good thing because a lot of T's venom can be studied and then used, maybe tomorrow, in medicine (Psalmopoeus cambridgei venom, for example, for some heart problems)

I was in error then because i always believed that NO ONE in that industry was really interested in study T's venom really... unlike Snakes, Scorpions venom etc

Anyway, cool work btw.

 

[Arachnomaniac19]

I believe they're using Grammostola rosea/porteri venom in heart medication. Hopefully someone will be able to cure something with their venom. Then people will start to come around to spiders.

 

[TsunamiSpike]

Or they start being farmed by big pharmaceutical companies to the point of extinction in their pursuit of financial gain on people's misfortune... [/pessimist mode]

 

[ratluvr76]

I believe they're using Grammostola rosea/porteri venom in heart medication. Hopefully someone will be able to cure something with their venom. Then people will start to come around to spiders.

I doubt it. Snake venom has being used in pharmaceuticals for a long time. People are still just as ignorant and hateful about snakes as they ever were.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

I doubt it. Snake venom has being used in pharmaceuticals for a long time. People are still just as ignorant and hateful about snakes as they ever were.

I don't know about Grammostola rosea venom in medical use, but i totally agree with you about snakes, and their venom used in the pharmaceuticals. Even if somewhat doubt about places like India, China and the South East of Asia in general.. can't figure out were the folklore and (fake sometimes) tribal medicine ends and start the real science and viceversa.

 

[Arachnomaniac19]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1071328/

 

[awiec]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1071328/

That is nice little article and a nice shout out for the species. Which I could foresee tarantulas getting a bit better press when it comes to medical research as A) They aren't deadly to humans or even pets and B) You don't just come upon them in your back yard...the opposite is true for rattlesnakes and being Canadian you may be unfamiliar with the "Rattlesnake Round Up". It's an annual event taking place in mainly the Southern State where it's encouraged to go and kill as many rattlers as possible and a lot of non-venomous (but "scary" looking) snakes get caught up too like the poor hognose snakes just cause they will puff up cause they're scared.

 

[ratluvr76]

That is nice little article and a nice shout out for the species. Which I could foresee tarantulas getting a bit better press when it comes to medical research as A) They aren't deadly to humans or even pets and B) You don't just come upon them in your back yard...the opposite is true for rattlesnakes and being Canadian you may be unfamiliar with the "Rattlesnake Round Up". It's an annual event taking place in mainly the Southern State where it's encouraged to go and kill as many rattlers as possible and a lot of non-venomous (but "scary" looking) snakes get caught up too like the poor hognose snakes just cause they will puff up cause they're scared.

having lived in SW Louisiana for the past 15 years has definitely acquainted me with this barbaric and horrific practice. I've seen some of the horrible torturous fates these snakes wind up with and it's deplorable. The words don't even exist to describe the disgust I feel when I find out a person I associate with participates in these events. It's ludicrous, and should be criminal.

 

[awiec]

having lived in SW Louisiana for the past 15 years has definitely acquainted me with this barbaric and horrific practice. I've seen some of the horrible torturous fates these snakes wind up with and it's deplorable. The words don't even exist to describe the disgust I feel when I find out a person I associate with participates in these events. It's ludicrous, and should be criminal.

It's fortunate the my state's only venomous snake is very strictly protected and most people don't even know that we have a native rattler because they are so good at staying away from people. I can sympathize a little if you find a lot of them on your property but going out of your way to find them in secluded areas to blast them with shot guns I don't understand; they don't hunt you down and murder you and your children in your sleep.

 

[ratluvr76]

It's fortunate the my state's only venomous snake is very strictly protected and most people don't even know that we have a native rattler because they are so good at staying away from people. I can sympathize a little if you find a lot of them on your property but going out of your way to find them in secluded areas to blast them with shot guns I don't understand; they don't hunt you down and murder you and your children in your sleep.

Hunting them down to shoot them isnt even the half of it. They capture them and stitch their mouths shut so they can't eat and let them starve to death, the de fang them so people can hold them to get their pictures taken with the huge dangerous snake as a some sort of bragging rights thing. They sew their mouths shut and stomp on them. They gather barrels full of them, pour gasoline in and burn them alive... The list of atrocities visited on them is truly endless. People are sick and twisted enough. Pair that with a mob mentality and human beings can be capable of justifying some truly heinous acts to themselves. What puzzles me is why they aren't arrested for animal cruelty. Pull these same stunts with puppies or kittens and see what happens. (Not saying this would be acceptable, just a compartive example)

 

[MrsHaas]

Heard something once ab tarantula venom being experimented with to try to create a non narcotic pain relieve that's like 20x stronger than morphine... How awesome would that be! Not sure if it's true tho

 

[Sana]

I'm glad that there are people doing research on possible benefits of tarantula venom. I'll keep my fingers crossed that this may indeed improve the general view of tarantulas.

 

[Arachnomaniac19]

That is nice little article and a nice shout out for the species. Which I could foresee tarantulas getting a bit better press when it comes to medical research as A) They aren't deadly to humans or even pets and B) You don't just come upon them in your back yard...the opposite is true for rattlesnakes and being Canadian you may be unfamiliar with the "Rattlesnake Round Up". It's an annual event taking place in mainly the Southern State where it's encouraged to go and kill as many rattlers as possible and a lot of non-venomous (but "scary" looking) snakes get caught up too like the poor hognose snakes just cause they will puff up cause they're scared.

I don't know if you're talking about NW, OW, or both, but some OWs can kill dogs and cats. I've heard about the rattle snake thing. It's hard to understand how come people can so readily do that, but then shame those who eat cat and dog meat.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

That is nice little article and a nice shout out for the species. Which I could foresee tarantulas getting a bit better press when it comes to medical research as A) They aren't deadly to humans or even pets and B) You don't just come upon them in your back yard...the opposite is true for rattlesnakes and being Canadian you may be unfamiliar with the "Rattlesnake Round Up". It's an annual event taking place in mainly the Southern State where it's encouraged to go and kill as many rattlers as possible and a lot of non-venomous (but "scary" looking) snakes get caught up too like the poor hognose snakes just cause they will puff up cause they're scared.

I have read here on AB about an escape, and then after that a bite report of a cat (if i'm not wrong) by a Pterinochilus murinus.
The cat survived. But there's something we don't (and probably never will) know.
Was that a full wet bite? My Pelinobius muticus is almost "bigger", in relationship, than one of my adult cats, a black skinny one. Don't know btw why black cats here are always smaller than other cats.
Anyway, almost impossible that would happen ok but i would be scared as hell if my African beast would bite that, skinny and little in size, cat.

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I don't know if you're talking about NW, OW, or both, but some OWs can kill dogs and cats. I've heard about the rattle snake thing. It's hard to understand how come people can so readily do that, but then shame those who eat cat and dog meat.

I know only Chinese (and other few nations of south east Asia, but i'm not completely sure) that eat cats and dogs meat. Oh, my uncle, grandmother's brother, did that too. But it happened in WW2 and those soldiers had nothing but really nothing to eat except.. a cat who was in the bad place at the bad moment.

 

[awiec]

I don't know if you're talking about NW, OW, or both, but some OWs can kill dogs and cats. I've heard about the rattle snake thing. It's hard to understand how come people can so readily do that, but then shame those who eat cat and dog meat.

Out of the 5 reports I've read of an non-Aussie OW biting pets, all survived, the Aussie T's on the other hand have been so far recorded as 100% fatal to dogs. There is a difference though, the Rattle Snake Round up is mainly made up of people who wish to torture/kill the animals out of fear and hatred. Dogs and cats are eaten in several countries but the animals aren't tortured while doing so, they just consider them good eats.

 

[viper69]

Or they start being farmed by big pharmaceutical companies to the point of extinction in their pursuit of financial gain on people's misfortune... [/pessimist mode]

That is not what would happen.

There are quite a few T toxins that are currently being studied as tools to either identify possible therapeutic targets or used as part of the potential medicine.

 

[ratluvr76]

That is not what would happen.

There are quite a few T toxins that are currently being studied as tools to either identify possible therapeutic targets or used as part of the potential medicine.

This is good to know!

I am curious about one thing though. If it needs its own thread let me know but,
How do they milky he T for its venom? They don't have to kill it do they?

 

[awiec]

This is good to know!

I am curious about one thing though. If it needs its own thread let me know but,
How do they milky he T for its venom? They don't have to kill it do they?

Nope, they actually knock them out with CO2 and then use a small electric current to stimulate the venom to drip out of the fangs; it's all done in less than a minute and spider goes on its day. I'd suggest watching the documentary Tarantulas: Australia's King of Spiders as they broke it down how they did it.

 

[pepey05]

We had a programme over here called Tarantula. There was an Australian guy on it who has a licence to track rare species and keep their breeding numbers up, he also extracts venom, fascinating to watch how he does it. Dr R J Raven was in most of it.

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Nope, they actually knock them out with CO2 and then use a small electric current to stimulate the venom to drip out of the fangs; it's all done in less than a minute and spider goes on its day. I'd suggest watching the documentary Tarantulas: Australia's King of Spiders as they broke it down how they did it.

Think this maybe the same programme? As I mentioned above. Excellent viewing

 

[awiec]

We had a programme over here called Tarantula. There was an Australian guy on it who has a licence to track rare species and keep their breeding numbers up, he also extracts venom, fascinating to watch how he does it. Dr R J Raven was in most of it.

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Think this maybe the same programme? As I mentioned above. Excellent viewing

I would say there is a good chance that is.