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[kosh]

I have a mature male G. rosea who has been mature (ultimate moult) for almost 2 years now. He almost never paces his cage looking for nookie. I would have had no qualms at all about never breeding him but I did breed him (like an idiot without thinking of the consequences) when he was about 1 year and 3 months post-ultimate moult.
So, some of what you say is not true. Not all of them will drive themselves nuts looking for nookie and not all will just die a slow painful death from blue balls in under a year. Also, there is now a certain dealer that has almost 300 CB G. rosea slings (from me) so I doubt there is any shortage of CB rosehair slings (the dealer said it was hard to get rid of those guys whether CB or WC).....

 

[Arachnopuppy]

My initial argument wasn't "we need more CB rosea." My initial argument was that the males are very miserable if they don't find a mate. However, based on what you said, it is possible that not all of them are as miserable as what I described. It still remains that it would be better for us to satisfy their "hornyness."

As far as CB rosea s'lings, the reason the dealer is having trouble getting rid of them is because there are already an abundance of WC roseas out there.

I think that what I have to say has already be said. Ultimately, to breed or not to breed is up to the owner and I can't do a darn thing about it.

 

[FelixA9]

Originally posted by Lam
You really need to send him to someone that has (1) a female G. rosea, (2) experience in this matter and (3) a good reputation. I suggest going to the invertpersonals to find a female rosea.

Here is the thing. I would urge you to send him to a female. Having the urge to mate and not find a mate is the most horrible thing that could happen to a tarantula, or any animal. It is even worse than death.

I'd second that =D =D

 

[cricket54]

When people buy tarantulas in say Petco, they want a much bigger one then a sling, one that looks like an adult. Since it takes the slings so long to grow, thats why they sell WC rosies?
I've seen so many Chilean roses at reptile shows and folks don't seem to be buying them because a lot of folks have one already.
Now if I knew for sure it would grow up to be a red phase...
maybe I would buy another one. The one I have is not an easy handable rosie like they are said to be. The male I had before her several yrs ago was not that nice either.

Sharon

 

[luther]

I found the relentless pacing of my B.emilia male quite sad after a while. He just wasn't going to give up looking for a mate. Once he matured out his personality changed really stongly and he just wouldn't sit still. I couldn't handle the time demands of a gazillion spiderlings, so I gave him away to someone who could breed him. That made me a lot happier than watching him rapidly deteriorate in condition.

 

[esmoot]

Lam. You technically have t’s? I thought you sold them all.

 

[Arachnopuppy]

Originally posted by esmoot
Lam. You technically have t’s? I thought you sold them all.

I thought I explicitly explained this many times before. Now, look at this very very carefully. I asked Krystal to keep them for me for a while. SHE DID NOT GIVE ME ANY $$$. Krystal then sent them to Conipto. HE DID NOT GIVE ME ANY $$$. The rest I gave to my various friends here to keep for me. Clear enough? It's a temporary thing. I WILL GET THEM BACK.

So, does that mean I can't post here anymore?

Edited: I do have some things to offer, and that is experience and passion for tarantulas. Happy? Remember that I was here when these forums first came online. Unless the Deranged bann me, I ain't gonna leave.

 

[kosh]

I suppose I could have an oddball G. rosea male.......he hasn't ever really paced the tank in search of nookie since his ultimate moult......in fact most of the time I have to tap on the tank to see if he is even alive.........he is the typical pet rock!! (although atypical in his case)
That is one of the reasons I did mate him......I wanted to see what would happen since he didn't seem to show any interest in mating.

I sure wish there were some people out there that were as concerned with my horniness and wanting to provide me with opportunities to mate as there are for these "bugs"!!!!! If anyone is interested in helping my cause, PM me!! hehe

 

[Arachnopuppy]

Originally posted by kosh

I sure wish there were some people out there that were as concerned with my horniness and wanting to provide me with opportunities to mate as there are for these "bugs"!!!!! If anyone is interested in helping my cause, PM me!! hehe

If you go to a gay bar or gay club, you will almost always have an opportunity to mate. Just an option that I thought you might want to know.

 

[xanadu1015]

Okay,


Some of these posts are getting slightly tense. Everyone has their opinions and those can be hard to change. Can we all AT LEAST agree on that?



Laura

 

[kosh]

LAM, ROFLOL....I knew someone was gonna come back with that. I prefer to stick to the strictly heterosexual style mating.....

 

[Arachnopuppy]

Originally posted by kosh
LAM, ROFLOL....I knew someone was gonna come back with that. I prefer to stick to the strictly heterosexual style mating.....

Sorry, but I can't help you there then. I lack certain physical aspects that you are looking for...=D

 

[Deliverme314]

How did this get on to homo/heterosexual topic? Did it really need to? Talk about off topic and completley pointless. Who cares what your preferences are? Not me.

Hey guys. I am hetero just thought you should know.

 

[Deliverme314]

Originally posted by Lam
I don't know where you've been all these years, may be under a rock or something, but most G. rosea out there are wild caught. In fact, some have argued that this is diminishing their wild population, and since a rosea s'ling grow so incredibly damn slow, most breeders just find it easier to go out and catch them.

Right. But there is an abundance of slings. They WILL grow up. So breeding another g rosea will not help. Hell how many on this board alone get posted. In the last 6 months I have heard of at least ten rosie sacs. Once again your point has nothing to do with mine. I understand that the adults in the market are WC. Which is exactly my point... WE aarent getting adults when we breed we are getting slings and there are an abundance all ready. We dont need anymore. There is no benefit only detrement. So no I have not been under a rock as you put it. I only try to be logical. Unfortunantley we cant get our Ts fixed like a dog but that doesnt mean we should breed every available MM rosie or L.Parahybana etc. It is not good for the tarantula market or hobby. If we have to many of a species dealers have to lower their prices. If they go to low dealers cant support themselves. We loose our dealers we loose our hobby. Its simple economics. You dont saturate a market. You're in school, take a course. We have a limited market. How many folks do you suppose will buy a rosie in the states this year? 5000? No more than that I promise. We have probobly produced that many slings on this board alone in thne past 6 month.

 

[Mister Internet]

Good lord, do we always have to go through this petty stuff guys?

The simple fact is that bugs don't feel "misery", therefore can't be miserable. They simply have biological imperatives... their instinct is telling them "time to find a mate", but it's not like they are suffering anything like what mammals in heat go through. THEY ARE BUGS, PEOPLE... You want to see miserable, watch a female dog in heat...

Anyway, could we please stop condescending to newbies the second they set foot in here? At least give them a minute or two to catch their breath before pummeling them ...

Tuffy, we're glad to have you here... and no, you don't HAVE to breed your mature male T. However, the unfortunate fact of nature is that he will only live 1.5-2 more years at the absolute longest. 95% of mature males die after their ultimate (mature) molt, with a very few experiencing another molt after that. The ones who have a post-ultimate molt end up looking pretty ragged though.

I think what people are trying to say is this: you KNOW the male is going to die, so enjoy him for a little while longer and then at least see if someone wants to have him for breeding. You wouldn't even have to worry about shipping if you didn't want any spiderlings... most people would pay it to get a mature male they wanted, if they were keeping all the slings. Just an option to consider...

 

[xanadu1015]

Mister Internet,



Well said and thank you for pointing that out.



Laura

 

[cricket54]

We are going through this right now with xanau1015's male A. moderatum. He is such a cool spider now that he has had his ultimate molt. All black and a neat shade of black. Long legged and all. He is'nt eating. The A. moderatum we think might be female was not interested in him when we put him in her container (were not absolutely certain its a girl, but I might have been seeing sermaphores looking at her with a magnifying glass.
Not many people are interested in breeding these so he is going to live his life out walking around his container. He still is calm when we hold him though. Its so weird that he is all black and she is gold (at least right now). Don't know what we would do with all the slings if she had mated. If we lived in Texas, I would take them and turn them lose when they got to be a good enough size.
Sharon