Tarantula hybrids reproducing???

[Remingtonsteel]

I've heard and seen many people breeding two different species of T to make a hybrid ,but if the hybrids themselves where to reproduce wouldn't the eggsac be infertile?,like with birds of the same genus (but not same species) or a dog and a wolf had offspring they would be infertile or a better example a liger (tiger/lion) which is infertile and cannot reproduce,or maybe if the T mated with the related species to it, it would digress back to its original form EG/
B.smithi x b.boehmei = hybrid

Hybrid x b.smithi = b.smithi

Hybrid x b.boehmei = b.boehmei

And if that hybrid mated with ,lets say a G.rosea?,would that in turn make a hybrid hybrid?
I'm not to smart when it comes to this so anybody that has any answer/opinions would be
Appreciated

 

[skar]

Don't ponder this so much... Just don't do it !!!

 

[prairiepanda]

You're going to get a lot of heat on these forums when you talk about making hybrids. Not a lot is known about hybrids, though. I've heard most of them are infertile, but I can't confirm that. Most hobbyists would avoid breeding a hybrid. But yes, in theory, if a hybrid were fertile it may be able to make a mutt, or a "hybrid hybrid". But no, Hybrid x Pure does not equal pure. That would just make a muddy gene pool from which a sac of slings sold as purebred could end up with unexpected characteristics.

 

[tyrantuladub]

inb4 the hellfire

I've heard and seen many people breeding two different species of T to make a hybrid ,but if the hybrids themselves where to reproduce wouldn't the eggsac be infertile?,like with birds of the same genus (but not same species) or a dog and a wolf had offspring they would be infertile or a better example a liger (tiger/lion) which is infertile and cannot reproduce...

With how genetics work, you can pretty much count on any hybrid being infertile.

or maybe if the T mated with the related species to it, it would digress back to its original form EG/
B.smithi x b.boehmei = hybrid

Hybrid x b.smithi = b.smithi

Hybrid x b.boehmei = b.boehmei

Well, see, DNA doesn't exactly work that way. Since they are different species, and not different morphs/formes of the same species, crossing a hybrid (which would be impossible due to infertility) with anything would result in a more hybridized offspring.

And if that hybrid mated with ,lets say a G.rosea?,would that in turn make a hybrid hybrid?
I'm not to smart when it comes to this so anybody that has any answer/opinions would be
Appreciated

See above for this.

You're certainly going to catch a lot of heat on these forums for even mentioning hybrids. It's extremely frowned upon. I urge you not to do so, but if you must then please keep it to yourself and DO NOT allow ANY hybrid offspring to leave YOUR POSSESSION. I'm sure more will elaborate as to why, but basically, on the off chance that one would be fertile (which is extremely slim) and got into the wrong hands/was labeled wrong, one spider could potentially destroy an entire species/genus in the captive hobby. They're not like dogs, each species of T is just that, it's own species, whereas domestic dogs are all the same species (to my knowledge) that have been selectively bred over expansive periods of time to promote certain qualities or traits. It's also nearly impossible to predict what the offspring would look like because so little is known about their DNA in general. I'll trust you with this knowledge, and I hope you have no devious intentions for it, that this was just a mere curios whim. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED.

 

[2bears]

There is enough problems in the hobby and T community, we dont need these problems, some things are just wrong period.
2Bears

 

[EulersK]

I understand the worry about contaminating the gene pool of specific species, but other than that, is there any downside?

 

[Remingtonsteel]

I think most of you here are getting the wrong message ,I'm not asking this to mate hybrids ,it's was purely by curiosity ,I relies the potential damage that it can do to genus's and ill never try it and also as said before if I ever find a hybrid in my possession ill never let it out of my site.

 

[klivers]

I saw this on a youtube video just the other week. If you search on youtube for "Tarantula Mythbuster 41", This video mostly talks about the Brachypelma Genus. At the end of the video, he talks about a hybrid between B. vagans and B. verdezi. Don't know if this is fact or fiction, as I am just reporting what I saw on this video.

 

[Arachtion]

It is supposed there are hybridised Hysterocrates already in the hobby but on the note of it being wrong I understand, one does, however ponder what in nature would happen if say a MM Haplopelma (say lividum for example) came into contact with a MF Haplopelma Longipes, as I have seen what are called "longipes sp. blue" makes me wonder if in nature they take matters into their own hands, as territories often cross and you do see if you look closely spiders that could perhaps be cross overs?

 

[Poec54]

I understand the worry about contaminating the gene pool of specific species, but other than that, is there any downside?

What, you need more? Most species are not being brought in anymore, most countries are closed down. Screwing up the genetic pool is the worst thing you can do to the hobby. It's extremely irresponsible.