tarantula bite?

robbie

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I am willing to bet that most 'spider bites' are just misdiagnosed MRSA infections.

No proof to back this up, but when I get the chance to test this I'll post the article on the boards.
i think i read some where that in most bites its not the venom but the bacteria in or on the fangs that causes the most damage in some spider bites. Could be wrong:confused: looking on the net now.....
 

Stylopidae

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i think i read some where that in most bites its not the venom but the bacteria in or on the fangs that causes the most damage in some spider bites. Could be wrong:confused: looking on the net now.....

Probably true. Just judging by the way spiders consume their food, there is ample opportunity for bacteria to set themselves up in it's mouthparts. Wouldn't be at all surprised at all if it was a komodo-dragon type evolutionary byproduct.

However, I get the feeling most 'spider bites' are diagnosed when a few rounds of miscellanious antibiotics don't work the first round.

Community borne MRSA infections have made news lately by becoming more and more commonplace, but I personally think this has been happening awhile but the infections were mistaken for spider bites by doctors who didn't bother to check the distribution of the spiders in question. I mean, just look how many brown recluse bites are diagnosed in states where loxoceles reclusa isn't present.

Granted, there are many other spiders whose venom can have a similar effect (yellow sack spider, hobo spider) whose distributions and reputations aren't as well known as the brown recluse, but doctors tend to write these infections off as 'brown recluse bites' without investigating the claim any further than they need to so they can push the patient out the door.
 

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I am willing to bet that most 'spider bites' are just misdiagnosed MRSA infections.

No proof to back this up, but when I get the chance to test this I'll post the article on the boards.
It's unlikely to be MRSA. Strep, yes. But probably not MRSA.

Most of the bugs living on your skin, and probably on spider fangs, are not antibiotic resistant, and certainly not multi-resistant. It'll probably be golden staph, or some similar variant.

If they did get some antibiotics and then came back with an infected furuncle (the technical name for that thing, I believe), then yes, your dealing with MRSA.

Incidentally, Cheshire, you'd be interested to know that MRSA doesn't grow as well as normal staph. The reason is that they're busy making all those other proteins which make them resistant, and they're not spending enough of their energy on the important things.


Probably true. Just judging by the way spiders consume their food, there is ample opportunity for bacteria to set themselves up in it's mouthparts. Wouldn't be at all surprised at all if it was a komodo-dragon type evolutionary byproduct.

However, I get the feeling most 'spider bites' are diagnosed when a few rounds of miscellanious antibiotics don't work the first round.

Community borne MRSA infections have made news lately by becoming more and more commonplace, but I personally think this has been happening awhile but the infections were mistaken for spider bites by doctors who didn't bother to check the distribution of the spiders in question. I mean, just look how many brown recluse bites are diagnosed in states where loxoceles reclusa isn't present.

Granted, there are many other spiders whose venom can have a similar effect (yellow sack spider, hobo spider) whose distributions and reputations aren't as well known as the brown recluse, but doctors tend to write these infections off as 'brown recluse bites' without investigating the claim any further than they need to so they can push the patient out the door.
The orignal video does indicate (in the comments, I believe) that they actually caught this spider in the act. Possibly made up post-event, but I don't know. Also, I know of people back home who get bitten by 'White tailed Spiders' - an Australian immigrant to NZ - and who get the same result. Also, this has been well documented now.

What you are seeing is a secondary infection. No spider venom will induce an immune response like that, accompanied with leukocytes in that quantity. Most likely from a spider bite is necrosis of the tissue, although that's an extreme expectation.

That video is most definately an infection, introduced by something, probably a puncture wound, and possibly a spider (how it got on his face, I don't know).

I am suspicious, however, that his girlfriend got another 'bite' on her temple... about where you might expect her temple to be if she'd been snuggling near his furuncle (picture sleeping with her head in his shoulder/neck region. That would place her temple smack on his infection, and likely introduce her little mark). That may, or may not be, a sign that there was no wound at all, and you're dealing with an everyday run-of-the-mill staph infection of the skin.
 

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Incidentally, Cheshire, you'd be interested to know that MRSA doesn't grow as well as normal staph. The reason is that they're busy making all those other proteins which make them resistant, and they're not spending enough of their energy on the important things.
Do you know if the community-originated strains are any different?

If you know of any papers I should read, just give me the info and I'll be able to look it up later.

I would think they're somehow different, but haven't gotten the chance to research it yet.

When I was referring to MRSA, I wasn't talking about a secondary infection from the MRSA but rather a primary infection that did not originate from a spider bite.

But like I said, my claim is only a hypothesis and nothing more.

I should also mention that I'm using computers which can't watch videos so I've yet to see this particular videos.
 

charlet_2007

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thats likes like a worm of some kind.. our barn kittens use to get and you ha=d to put the sucker out before it would heal...
 

davidmmx

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I hate you .. I'm not sleeping in a few weeks. I was able to see until 2:14.
 

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holy crap! Thats gross. When ever i see a spider in my house(espiecially huge jumping spiders i treat them like mini tarantulas. I now think a tade differently. lol. But yea that cant be just a result of a spider bite. It has to be infected. does anybody have a pic of a tarantula bite?
 

tin man

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that looked more like a hookworm or something, but it wasnt moving:clap:
 

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The second video looked quite fake to me. You can see an almost 'latex' like substance around the 'hole' in her cheek. My sister is a make-up artist so I've seen her do some pretty killer stuff with latex, fake blood and make-up.
 

robbie

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The second video looked quite fake to me. You can see an almost 'latex' like substance around the 'hole' in her cheek. My sister is a make-up artist so I've seen her do some pretty killer stuff with latex, fake blood and make-up.
you might have a point as on the first vid they did a lot of cutting and editing, i mean it jumps from her gaging and pointing down and then all of a sudden the camera is back on him picking at it again. :? i guess we will never know.
 

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Well congratulations! I have never watched anything that made me look away, but I had to stop that one after just a few seconds.

That was the most disgusting thing I have ever seen in my entire 47 years of life. (Barfing smiley!) And I really thought I had seen everything.

Is there some kind of award for grossing someone out?:rolleyes:
 

Ronniegal

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Id say its from a horror make up pack! I had one as a kid :eek:) her face would be lot more red and swollen if it was for real.
 

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Im guessing im the only guy that read the comments.. Bot fly larvae..
Makes sense to me, NO spider is able to produce a bite result such as that as they extract something from it (the larvae).
 
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