Tarantual suicide??

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Exactly the difference between poison and venom...

"Aren't tarantula's poisonous?" :wall:
my brother breeds colubrids and constantly gets asked if they're 'poisonous'. he is a school teacher, and we come from a family of educators. we therefore are HUUUUUGE fans of educating people, and thus are constantly having to explain the difference between venom and poison... ignorance can be ridiculous...

by the way, check out his website: http://www.southtexasherps.com/
 

Radamanthys

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I have never heard of ANY T's commiting suicide.

Although, truly, there is a nervous disease (or disturb, whatever) on scorpions that makes them attack themselves. Like human masoquism, but i dont know if they have any pleasure out of it. Anyway, its jsut an idiot metaphore or something, lol. Well, they are venomous, so the masoquism session don't last long. :?

As for lemmings, (if they are what i think they are, i'm brazilian so i'm gessing here ;P ) i heard someone say they suicide themselves in periods of low food, when they get into sea trying to fish or catch something. Some have been seen getting out of sea actually with fishes in their mouths (not much have, but some lucky guys), although i don't really believe that... I think is more a overpopulacion issue, don't know

thats what i've read or heard xD
 
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Krz

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Rumour has it...

I knew it was a load of BS because it is the same person who told me about a 'friend' who had a T which could actually swim. :liar: I've never in my life seen or heard of this and T's (or any other spiders) as far as I know simply don't have the physiological/anatomical capacity to be able swimmers. I think the valuable discussion that was elicited was regarding a T's immunity to its own venom...

The lesson learnt is that if someone tells you a story and they can't give you the necessary specifics i.e species, person involved, date etc then the story's credibility could be questioned.
 

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I knew it was a load of BS because it is the same person who told me about a 'friend' who had a T which could actually swim. :liar: I've never in my life seen or heard of this and T's (or any other spiders) as far as I know simply don't have the physiological/anatomical capacity to be able swimmers.
Did you ever hear of Argyroneta aquatica? About tarantulas that can and do swim, take a look at Jason A. Dunlop's article. Not exactly swimming but it's interesting: Martin Huber's story of a "scuba diver" Hysterocrates.
 

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Exactly the difference between poison and venom...

"Aren't tarantula's poisonous?" :wall:
poison is defined by ingesting it and having ill effects. in the sense that eating a bad mushroom is poisonous, or eating a caine toad is poisonous, you wont die from touching either, but eating is a different story

venom is injected into the body, like a bee or a tarantula. venom becomes a poison when you try to drink it, like milking a cobra and downing the glass, which i dont recomend:embarrassed:
 

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Although, truly, there is a nervous disease (or disturb, whatever) on scorpions that makes them attack themselves. Like human masoquism, but i dont know if they have any pleasure out of it.
Well, first off, masochism is not a disease. It's just something some people are into. Diseases are contagious, personal preferences are not.

Second, no.

"The misconception may derive from the fact that scorpions are cold-blooded: when exposed to intense heat their metabolic processes malfunction. This causes the scorpion to spasm wildly and this spasming may appear as if the scorpion is stinging itself. It is also untrue that alcohol will cause scorpions to sting themselves to death."

I knew it was a load of BS because it is the same person who told me about a 'friend' who had a T which could actually swim. :liar:
o rly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLXAg97PSvA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-13XbRKyzyQ
 

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diabetes isn't contagious, but it's a disease... lupus too. alcoholism. we're gunna need a better definition of disease than being contagious....?
No, we're not, because that's woefully off topic. :rolleyes: I don't really care enough to get into it.
 

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haha i think you're just a masochist, and are somehow trying to justify your behavior... not that it needs justification i guess.... ;)
Not that it is even remotely your business, but no. I am, however, highly annoyed by anyone claiming someone else's personal preferences and/or lifestyle is a "disease," regardless of what the preference or lifestyle may be. I also do not find your response terribly mature or funny, for the record.

EDIT: But like I said, this is ridiculously off-topic anyway.

I was going to reply to the swimming thing as well, but you beat me and you had links, so I concede. :)
Those vids always crack me up, the pinktoe looks like a little motorboat. {D
 

somethingbig

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Not that it is even remotely your business, but no.
i thought that was pretty obviously a joke, so you can just chill out... that's what the little winky guy was for (;) )

I am, however, highly annoyed by anyone claiming someone else's personal preferences and/or lifestyle is a "disease," regardless of what the preference or lifestyle may be. I also do not find your response terribly mature or funny, for the record.
you must not have read what i wrote well. i never even remotely hinted that someone's "personal preferences and/or lifestyle is a 'disease!'" i simply pointed out that diseases are not necessarily contagious, a point you cannot refute.

did you know that until 1973 homosexuality was listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders as a mental disorder, or mental "disease?" now i am in no way supporting such a claim, but until 1973 it was considered a fact.

why was it considered such? because some group of "professionals" sat around and voted that it was a disease. this is why i originally stated that you're gunna have to define disease, and sorry, but contagiousness is a ridiculously stupid qualifier... :eek:

so get off it, learn to take a joke, and don't be such a dbag...
 

somethingbig

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Do accuse me of not knowing how to read again. I enjoy it.
yeah, i realized that i made a stupid statement so i tried to change it as soon as i could, but i was a little late.


Start telling funny jokes and it's a deal.
i intend to, but i'm sure there's at least one person out there that laughed. and there is a subtle difference between telling jokes (why did the chicken cross the road?) and simply joking around (a jest, or poking fun). you really shouldn't take either to heart...
 

Krz

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Yea sheesh...

How did we get from suicidal T's and venom to this? Sheesh talk about suicidal tendencies...where's my switchblade? ;)
 

ReMoVeR

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omg what a funny/silly topic/offtopic righ here ;O lol

flame ON!!!!:evil:

(just had to coment on it)
 
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