T. Seladonia - What ya think?

[eatsleepfish]

Hello all!

I've just been doing a bit of research on arboreal Ts and are quickly becoming my favorites. I had a friend reach out saying he could send me a T. Seladonia... but there seems to be a lot of controversy surrounding them. I know they are endangered due to their native habitat being deforested. What are your thoughts on this species?

 

[DuneElliot]

I'd love one, but none for sale right now. If your friend is a reputable breeder/buys from reputable breeders and they're captive bred then I don't see the issue. Wish I had a friend who would gift me one!

 

[eatsleepfish]

I'd love one, but none for sale right now. If your friend is a reputable breeder/buys from reputable breeders and they're captive bred then I don't see the issue. Wish I had a friend who would gift me one!

He is a breeder in Canada and they are captive bred! It might be some trouble getting the paperwork to get it across the border but would totally be worth it.

 

[viper69]

Hello all!

I've just been doing a bit of research on arboreal Ts and are quickly becoming my favorites. I had a friend reach out saying he could send me a T. Seladonia... but there seems to be a lot of controversy surrounding them. I know they are endangered due to their native habitat being deforested. What are your thoughts on this species?

They aren’t an easy species to keep.

Get an Avic

 

[cold blood]

He is a breeder in Canada and they are captive bred! It might be some trouble getting the paperwork to get it across the border but would totally be worth it.

Across the border? Nope, definitely not worth the cost or effort required to legally import them IMO.

 

[viper69]

Across the border? Nope, definitely not worth the cost or effort required to legally import them IMO.

When I called TCan, Martin told me I’d have to order 2,000$ Of Ts to make it worthwhile to import

 

[eatsleepfish]

They aren’t an easy species to keep.

Get an Avic

may I ask why they are difficult to keep? arboreals in general or T. seladonia?

 

[Tarantuland]

may I ask why they are difficult to keep? arboreals in general or T. seladonia?

Seladonia specifically.

If you’re in America I don’t think you can get any endemic Brazilian sp sent in from any country. Not sure how Canada and Europe work. I’m not an importer

 

[curtisgiganteus]

T seladonia are much more sensitive to humidity and airflow requirements than the most difficult Avics to keep. Of the three I purchased I have 2 left and they are doing well so far, however it took trial and error on my part and tons of research and I still lost one of my slings post molt. Raise a few Avics from slings before you even think about acquiring one of these.

 

[l4nsky]

When I called TCan, Martin told me I’d have to order 2,000$ Of Ts to make it worthwhile to import

Good to know.

 

[Poonjab]

I’d get a T. Albodonia. Way cooler anyways

 

[kingshockey]

i wouldnt even try buying one until they became more captive bred and available oerall. thats not even considering if my skill level was competent enough to try keping one

 

[viper69]

may I ask why they are difficult to keep? arboreals in general or T. seladonia?

clearly not Avics- I would not recommend a hard genus as an alternative

Why? No one knows - some species are easy others not

the species - virtually nothing is known about them, captive-born are not any easier, their feeding response is poor, they tend to be highly defensive from what I’ve seen- no surprise given their size, and they are pretty sensitive to humidity by all accounts from owners I’ve spoken with

guy in Canada one of the first to own them in the continent- had 5, 3 died relatively soon, and the guy is an Entomologist.

 

[Wolf135]

I tend to avoid arboreals since they're really fragile not to mention lighting fast.

 

[curtisgiganteus]

clearly not Avics- I would not recommend a hard genus as an alternative

Why? No one knows - some species are easy others not

the species - virtually nothing is known about them, captive-born are not any easier, their feeding response is poor, they tend to be highly defensive from what I’ve seen- no surprise given their size, and they are pretty sensitive to humidity by all accounts from owners I’ve spoken with

guy in Canada one of the first to own them in the continent- had 5, 3 died relatively soon, and the guy is an Entomologist.

My slings have bipolar feeding responses. One week the minute something touches the trap door it gets snatched. Then the next month straight I have to pull the cork their trapdoor is built into out of their vial and drag a feeder back and forth for 5 minutes just for them to take it. Even then, the most apathetic I have ever had a T take food.

 

[viper69]

My slings have bipolar feeding responses. One week the minute something touches the trap door it gets snatched. Then the next month straight I have to pull the cork their trapdoor is built into out of their vial and drag a feeder back and forth for 5 minutes just for them to take it. Even then, the most apathetic I have ever had a T take food.

Yep that’s the norm I’ve read with experienced owners of these, yeah apathetic is right

So this tells me one thing- we are not mimicking their environment properly.

And they are deceptively fast, makes my Avics look like Brachy

 

[arthurliuyz]

Would not recommend a T seladonia, plus all the effort and money put into it to get one across borders isn't worth it for me. BUT, if you're set on getting one, @Marcostaco might be able to give you some insights. He's raised a few successfully to subadult.
See here: https://arachnoboards.com/threads/typhochlaena-seladonia-from-sling-to-subadult.356880/

 

[A guy]

Would not recommend a T seladonia, plus all the effort and money put into it to get one across borders isn't worth it for me. BUT, if you're set on getting one, @Marcostaco might be able to give you some insights. He's raised a few successfully to subadult.
See here: https://arachnoboards.com/threads/typhochlaena-seladonia-from-sling-to-subadult.356880/

Oofff getting a T. seladonia pass the US border would definitely not be worth all the trouble. Get something else instead for the meantime. While, you're getting the hang of things just save up for a T. seladonia and buy from captive bred specimens there in the US.

I love my specimens. They're big adults now, although not matured out yet. BEAUTIFUL when you actually get go see them but I won't regret saying that they're a bit overhyped.

 

[PhantasticPhids]

My seladonia are my favorite but I wouldn’t import them just to keep one or two for myself. They are easy once you get them past the tiny spiderling stage. When they’re tiny, it takes a long time for them to build a door and without a door, it’s hard to get them to eat - though I found their favorite is prekilled pinheads. Once they build a door and are bigger, I slip in pre injured prey once or twice a week, offer a water bowl, and put some water in a corner of the substrate once in a while and they’re happy.