T. Seladonia not Eating

[jackiepoo]

My T. Seladonia is in the sling stage; I've had them for about two weeks.
She has found a spot she likes in the cork I see here hiding in this crevice sometimes but has not made a burrow.
I have put multiple fruit flys in this enclosure every couple of days ( I make sure to take them out at the end of the day if uneaten)
I think it could be premolt, but I am not sure, and I don't know what to do.

 

[Liquifin]

T. seladonia has been rather difficult to feed for some people not to mention they are still rather difficult to care for since the information isn't as solid yet for them. I don't have T. seladonia, but when was the last time it ate and how large is the abdomen? If the abdomen is not skinny then it should be fine.

 

[SpookySpooder]

You're doing it wrong. Why you picked these up as a beginner without absorbing all available knowledge is beyond me TBH. I get some species are easy enough to pick up and figure it out as you go--this is not one of them. With each one easily $250 I would think you did at least basic reading on them.

I am by no means an expert on them but some things are just obvious by doing basic research on the species.

Without a trapdoor, all you're doing is annoying the spider by introducing prey items it can't catch. They do not hunt the same way most other species do in the sense they do not actively go chasing after prey, some might try when they're starving, but most I've seen just get upset at live prey. You're feeding it like it's a jumping spider or a regular burrowing T.

All of mine only ate prekilled prey before they made their trapdoors, I have not witnessed a single one eating or trying to take down live prey without a trapdoor. Other keepers may have, but I haven't read an account of it or seen a video and I have scoured the internet for every tidbit of information.

The exception to this is the sling in my avatar, this one will take PREKILLED feeders if I hand it off, but it isn't a hunting "I caught you" kind of thing, more like "oh look I found a dead pinhead"

This one was the last to make a trapdoor and wandered a lot more than the others.

I won't make any assumptions on the behavior I've noticed out of my data set but I can correlate that no trapdoor = hard to feed, and constantly messing/checking on them = no trapdoor.

Learn to leave it alone. Kill prey and offer it near where the spider has decided to nestle.

I water it every 3 days by putting 1-2 droplets of water outside the lip of the trapdoor and 3 drops into the substrate with a syringe and offering 1 prekilled pinhead every 6 days. I don't pop the top or even move the vial to check on them unless it's to water and feed. Works perfectly for me.

 

[A guy]

Here are threads that I've posted on my journey with mine. Now 2 of them are gravid females.

I've never had a problem with mine and one of them didn't made a trapdoor until almost to adulthood and doesn't even use the trapdoor unless for molting.

Typhochlaena seladonia - From sling to subadult

This is just my experience, how I've cared for and raised them from 1/3" slings to the present. So before I even thought about purchasing these slings, I've already read tons of threads about them. After that, I went ahead and asked the best person I know about this stuff, the forefront breeder...

arachnoboards.com

T. seladonia not using trapdoor is okay

So as the title suggests T. seladonia not using a trapdoor is fine if it's continuing to feed and thrive. I always see on Facebook groups where if an OP says that his/her T. seladonia has a trapdoor but is out all the time, people in the comments automatically assume that there is something...

arachnoboards.com

 

[viper69]

My T. Seladonia is in the sling stage; I've had them for about two weeks.
She has found a spot she likes in the cork I see here hiding in this crevice sometimes but has not made a burrow.
I have put multiple fruit flys in this enclosure every couple of days ( I make sure to take them out at the end of the day if uneaten)
I think it could be premolt, but I am not sure, and I don't know what to do.

If this is your first T, it will very likely be dead soon. Why did you get this species?

one of them didn't made a trapdoor until almost to adulthood and doesn't even use the trapdoor unless for molting

Trapdoor creation/use - that’s very very interesting

You’re the first to have reported this that Ive come across.

 

[SpookySpooder]

Here are threads that I've posted on my journey with mine. Now 2 of them are gravid females.

I've never had a problem with mine and one of them didn't made a trapdoor until almost to adulthood and doesn't even use the trapdoor unless for molting.

Typhochlaena seladonia - From sling to subadult

This is just my experience, how I've cared for and raised them from 1/3" slings to the present. So before I even thought about purchasing these slings, I've already read tons of threads about them. After that, I went ahead and asked the best person I know about this stuff, the forefront breeder...

arachnoboards.com

T. seladonia not using trapdoor is okay

So as the title suggests T. seladonia not using a trapdoor is fine if it's continuing to feed and thrive. I always see on Facebook groups where if an OP says that his/her T. seladonia has a trapdoor but is out all the time, people in the comments automatically assume that there is something...

arachnoboards.com

I've read all of your posts, thank you for taking the time to share. I have noticed this behavior in the sling I mentioned, I suspect it might display behavior similar to what you've mentioned down the line.

A question for me, have you seen them actively hunting prey outside of their trapdoors? IE chasing down a feeder like an Avic would?

I 1) don't watch them like a hawk so I don't see them doing their thing all day and 2) have only offered prekilled food items as that is what has worked so far for me

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

You're doing it wrong. Why you picked these up as a beginner without absorbing all available knowledge is beyond me TBH. I get some species are easy enough to pick up and figure it out as you go--this is not one of them. With each one easily $250 I would think you did at least basic reading on them.

I am by no means an expert on them but some things are just obvious by doing basic research on the species.

Without a trapdoor, all you're doing is annoying the spider by introducing prey items it can't catch. They do not hunt the same way most other species do in the sense they do not actively go chasing after prey, some might try when they're starving, but most I've seen just get upset at live prey. You're feeding it like it's a jumping spider or a regular burrowing T.

All of mine only ate prekilled prey before they made their trapdoors, I have not witnessed a single one eating or trying to take down live prey without a trapdoor. Other keepers may have, but I haven't read an account of it or seen a video and I have scoured the internet for every tidbit of information.

The exception to this is the sling in my avatar, this one will take PREKILLED feeders if I hand it off, but it isn't a hunting "I caught you" kind of thing, more like "oh look I found a dead pinhead"

This one was the last to make a trapdoor and wandered a lot more than the others.

I won't make any assumptions on the behavior I've noticed out of my data set but I can correlate that no trapdoor = hard to feed, and constantly messing/checking on them = no trapdoor.

Learn to leave it alone. Kill prey and offer it near where the spider has decided to nestle.

I water it every 3 days by putting 1-2 droplets of water outside the lip of the trapdoor and 3 drops into the substrate with a syringe and offering 1 prekilled pinhead every 6 days. I don't pop the top or even move the vial to check on them unless it's to water and feed. Works perfectly for me.

Sounds like this species is experts only , and harder than t blondi to keep . I would just buy an obt instead even if i could afford one . Which I can’t …

If this is your first T, it will very likely be dead soon. Why did you get this species?





Trapdoor creation/use - that’s very very interesting

You’re the first to have reported this that Ive come across.

you can say that again …
hope op can get it to eat ..

 

[A guy]

I've read all of your posts, thank you for taking the time to share. I have noticed this behavior in the sling I mentioned, I suspect it might display behavior similar to what you've mentioned down the line.

A question for me, have you seen them actively hunting prey outside of their trapdoors? IE chasing down a feeder like an Avic would?

I wouldn't say actively hunting but yes they feed like any other tarantula even without a trapdoor. But they are more of an ambush "type" literally sit and wait until the prey comes to them.

Trapdoor creation/use - that’s very very interesting

You’re the first to have reported this that Ive come across.

It's one of the very first things Martin Gamache tought me about this species. "As long as it eats, it's fine."

I mean he's bred them with great success and the ones that I have from slings are now expecting to have some sacs very soon so I think it's probably true lol

 

[SpookySpooder]

Appreciated sir.

Sounds like this species is experts only , and harder than t blondi to keep . I would just buy an obt instead even if i could afford one . Which I can’t …

you can say that again …
hope op can get it to eat ..

They're not all that hard--but I am standing on the shoulder of giants such as Martin and Marco.

Mine eat regularly, I can tell by their abdomen size and the leftover bolus, but I rarely see them eating because it usually happens after I go to sleep.

I've seen them stick their faces out of their trapdoors to drink water or to pull in a dead feeder, it's pretty cute actually.

OP doesn't need to really coerce them into eating, they'll eat if food is easily accessible and they are hungry

 

[jackiepoo]

You're doing it wrong. Why you picked these up as a beginner without absorbing all available knowledge is beyond me TBH. I get some species are easy enough to pick up and figure it out as you go--this is not one of them. With each one easily $250 I would think you did at least basic reading on them.

I am by no means an expert on them but some things are just obvious by doing basic research on the species.

Without a trapdoor, all you're doing is annoying the spider by introducing prey items it can't catch. They do not hunt the same way most other species do in the sense they do not actively go chasing after prey, some might try when they're starving, but most I've seen just get upset at live prey. You're feeding it like it's a jumping spider or a regular burrowing T.

All of mine only ate prekilled prey before they made their trapdoors, I have not witnessed a single one eating or trying to take down live prey without a trapdoor. Other keepers may have, but I haven't read an account of it or seen a video and I have scoured the internet for every tidbit of information.

The exception to this is the sling in my avatar, this one will take PREKILLED feeders if I hand it off, but it isn't a hunting "I caught you" kind of thing, more like "oh look I found a dead pinhead"

This one was the last to make a trapdoor and wandered a lot more than the others.

I won't make any assumptions on the behavior I've noticed out of my data set but I can correlate that no trapdoor = hard to feed, and constantly messing/checking on them = no trapdoor.

Learn to leave it alone. Kill prey and offer it near where the spider has decided to nestle.

I water it every 3 days by putting 1-2 droplets of water outside the lip of the trapdoor and 3 drops into the substrate with a syringe and offering 1 prekilled pinhead every 6 days. I don't pop the top or even move the vial to check on them unless it's to water and feed. Works perfectly for me.

I really appreciate all the replies this helps a lot, btw this is nowhere near close to my first T lol idk why ppl keep commenting that

 

[SpookySpooder]

NP we love to help.

I don't think anybody said it was your first, I was commenting on your level of experience and lack of basic reading.

Would you care to clarify for me how long you've been doing this and how much experience you actually have so I can correct myself?

 

[jackiepoo]

If this is your first T, it will very likely be dead soon. Why did you get this species?





Trapdoor creation/use - that’s very very interesting

You’re the first to have reported this that Ive come across.

I got this is a birthday gift, because a local breeder had them in stock ( this is my 15th tarantula not my first)

NP we love to help.

I don't think anybody said it was your first, I was commenting on your level of experience and lack of basic reading.

Would you care to clarify for me how long you've been doing this and how much experience you actually have so I can correct myself?

I've been keeping tarantulas for a couple of years without any deaths, I believe the reason that it's a learning curve is because I haven't kept many trapdoor tarantulas, I watched as many videos as I could and read a lot of stuff, but like mentioned before in this thread there isn't that much information on them, so I turned to the arachnobaords to get help from people with experience with the species, I'm sorry if I seemed incompetent but I'm trying my best

 

[viper69]

I wouldn't say actively hunting but yes they feed like any other tarantula even without a trapdoor. But they are more of an ambush "type" literally sit and wait until the prey comes to them.

Just like my H chilensis

 

[SpookySpooder]

I appreciate the clarification. I did not mean to bring your self esteem into this. Based on your other posts I thought you had just started in the last few months. There isn't much known about this species besides what the successful keepers and breeders in the hobby have reported. That's where I started, that's where you should too. Searching "Typhochaelna seladonia" into the search bar yields 9 pages of results. I looked through every single comment of every single page. Did you do that?

I've read all of Marco and Wizentrops threads about this species. I emailed Martin Gamache and DavesLilBeasties about these species as these two individuals have had great success breeding them. Did you do that?

That's all I'm commenting on, not your competency.

 

[viper69]

I got this is a birthday gift, because a local breeder had them in stock ( this is my 15th tarantula not my first)

Given your age- I don’t have much confidence in you or anyone else at that age to successfully keep this species

Could be wrong, time will tell

 

[jackiepoo]

I appreciate the clarification. I did not mean to bring your self esteem into this. Based on your other posts I thought you had just started in the last few months. There isn't much known about this species besides what the successful keepers and breeders in the hobby have reported. That's where I started, that's where you should too. Searching "Typhochaelna seladonia" into the search bar yields 9 pages of results. I looked through every single comment of every single page. Did you do that?

I've read all of Marco and Wizentrops threads about this species. I emailed Martin Gamache and DavesLilBeasties about these species as these two individuals have had great success breeding them. Did you do that?

That's all I'm commenting on, not your competency.

ill get right on that
I recently just discovered arachnoboards too an ill be sure to utilize it to its potential next time
ty

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

Given your age- I don’t have much confidence in you or anyone else at that age to successfully keep this species

Could be wrong, time will tell

I had 1-4 spiders at that age 2 more likely , he says he’s already had 15+ . If anything I wish him the best of luck , but this isn’t a walk in the park species ..
Maybe over expanding …

ill get right on that
I recently just discovered arachnoboards too an ill be sure to utilize it to its potential next time
ty

it’s a newer species to that hobby so that’s your best bet . Otherwise it’s a shot in the dark .

 

[Pana Lemontzis]

My T. Seladonia is in the sling stage; I've had them for about two weeks.
She has found a spot she likes in the cork I see here hiding in this crevice sometimes but has not made a burrow.
I have put multiple fruit flys in this enclosure every couple of days ( I make sure to take them out at the end of the day if uneaten)
I think it could be premolt, but I am not sure, and I don't know what to do.

Feed it pre killed, or a crickets leg. Do make sure to keep them bone dry unless theyre about to moult. In that case id put them somewhere just a tiny bit more humid(a tiny spray on the top side of the lid or if you took a shower leave them there for a little while). Also this spieces is a rather hard one to keep in captivity... I know someone who raised slings and thats what theyd done

 

[jackiepoo]

completely off topic but my Brazilian black, after many months finally started to molt, and I can get it on video

 

[viper69]

Feed it pre killed, or a crickets leg. Do make sure to keep them bone dry unless theyre about to moult. In that case id put them somewhere just a tiny bit more humid(a tiny spray on the top side of the lid or if you took a shower leave them there for a little while). Also this spieces is a rather hard one to keep in captivity... I know someone who raised slings and thats what theyd done

Keeping them bone dry isn’t what many suggest. This species seems to need a certain level of humidity based.