T. Apophysis Adult Enclosure Size

[JusticePlague]

Hi! I'm just wondering what size enclosure we'll need for our big girl when she hits her full size. (She's only about 4-5DLS right now, I'd guess.)
We aren't planning on putting her in it, yet, obviously. Just trying to determine what people do for them, so I can plan ahead.
TIA <3

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

Hi! I'm just wondering what size enclosure we'll need for our big girl when she hits her full size. (She's only about 4-5DLS right now, I'd guess.)
We aren't planning on putting her in it, yet, obviously. Just trying to determine what people do for them, so I can plan ahead.
TIA <3

I got my phampho adult in a 15 gallon long I think 7-8” t an estimate can’t seem to measure her, the pink foot ofc get a lot larger ..!!
Some people house the Goliath in a 10 gallon, or bigger . So long as there’s not much fall space and might want a lid they can’t lift off either . Or security stuff ontop . My lasiodora keeps on trying to escape .. as do many they keep trying. Lid has a lock on it built in ..
side question are theraphosa equally moisture dependent as Phamphos ? They both seem similar .

 

[Wolfram1]

at least 40x40x30cm (LxWxH) better even more like 60x40x30 or other similar dimentions

you can always go bigger if you have the space, just dont give it too much hight

 

[Gilligan]

I house my stirmi in a long, short, 20 gallon.

 

[JusticePlague]

I got my phampho adult in a 15 gallon long I think 7-8” t an estimate can’t seem to measure her, the pink foot ofc get a lot larger ..!!
Some people house the Goliath in a 10 gallon, or bigger . So long as there’s not much fall space and might want a lid they can’t lift off either . Or security stuff ontop . My lasiodora keeps on trying to escape .. as do many they keep trying. Lid has a lock on it built in ..
side question are theraphosa equally moisture dependent as Phamphos ? They both seem similar .

Yeah. Adult T. Apophysis has an adult DLS of 10inch at least. 10gal just doest feel big enough going off of the suggest terrestrial sizing
And definitely going to make sure the lid is super secure.
But I know some species prefer smaller spaces, I just don't know how t.apophysis is on that front, our girl is still pretty young and we've only had her for a little over a month.
As for moisture dependent, yeah, they are pretty moisture dependent, I've followed Tom Moran's guide for that.

at least 40x40x30cm (LxWxH) better even more like 60x40x30 or other similar dimentions

you can always go bigger if you have the space, just dont give it too much hight

Yeah that just. Feels too small for an adult, especially if ones goes of the 3x leg span for floor space. Do they prefer the smaller size? Space isn't really an issue, her happiness is. I'll make the space if I have to.

Her current is approximately 60L cm x 40W cm (unsure of height but wanna say it's 25cm) She's a bit feisty so we didn't want to have to rehouse her a bunch of times. My hope is keep her in there for a molt or two and then move her into her adult enclosure.
Which is why I'm planning ahead.
But like... a 40gal breeder (36in x 18in x 16in) just feels.. like it should be too big. Our other big T is a male T.Albo, so it could feel so big just because im used to looking at stuff for him though.

(Don't worry, I know not to give too much height, because of the fall risk! I'll fill any enclosure up to a safe level.)

 

[JusticePlague]

I house my stirmi in a long, short, 20 gallon.

I should be ashamed of myself as an aquarium person, I forgot about 20gal longs.
But, as an adult? They seem to like it in there? I'd personally like to go a bit wider, but the length and height are great, and if the T prefers that, then it's what's best for them.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

I should be ashamed of myself as an aquarium person, I forgot about 20gal longs.
But, as an adult? They seem to like it in there? I'd personally like to go a bit wider, but the length and height are great, and if the T prefers that, then it's what's best for them.

Here’s a 20gal long it’s massive, I don’t got anything big enough for it beside the phampho and it barely explores so 15g is fine . The dimensions in pic 3 are of my smaller 15g tank . are of the 15g for comparison so the op can see the difference.

 

[Wolfram1]

true, i would even say having 2x2 times legspan in usable surface is the absolute minimum, hence the 40x40

sure there are 10" Theraphosa but 8-9" is probaly average

above that i would go for the dimentions that fit your space best, having a shelf half-filled by the enclosure just looks off

 

[JusticePlague]

Here’s a 20gal long it’s massive, I don’t got anything big enough for it beside the phampho and it barely explores so 15g is fine . The dimensions in pic 3 are of my smaller 15g tank . are of the 15g for comparison so the op can see the difference.

Yeah I love 20 gal longs. Great tanks for aquascaping I just forgot about them momentairly
I personally wouldn't call it massive. I've got a 40gal breeder that houses an axolotl in the house massive tanks to me are like 125gals. But. I was a fish person long before I was an invert person.

But yeah, if a 20long will keep the big girl happy, then that's a good bit easier to manage. Weight wise and money wise at least. Space isn't an issue.

true, i would even say having 2x2 times legspan in usable surface is the absolute minimum, hence the 40x40

sure there are 10" Theraphosa but 8-9" is probaly average

above that i would go for the dimentions that fit your space best, having a shelf half-filled by the enclosure just looks off

It would. But, we'll probably end up buying a shelf just for her enclosure, so it's the right size. The only place we have big enough rn is my desk, and I've already given like 75% of my work space to some of our various pets.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

Yeah I love 20 gal longs. Great tanks for aquascaping I just forgot about them momentairly
I personally wouldn't call it massive. I've got a 40gal breeder that houses an axolotl in the house massive tanks to me are like 125gals. But. I was a fish person long before I was an invert person.

But yeah, if a 20long will keep the big girl happy, then that's a good bit easier to manage. Weight wise and money wise at least. Space isn't an issue.


It would. But, we'll probably end up buying a shelf just for her enclosure, so it's the right size. The only place we have big enough rn is my desk, and I've already given like 75% of my work space to some of our various pets.

Yeah I just don’t know if my 15 gal is a long style tank or not ?
I meant massive compared to the size of the spider itself and my other tanks . But I mean look up rob c old videos he had a Goliath burgundy in a 55gallon tank . wonder why he left the hobby ?
Now that is huge ! But yeah fish and reptile tanks get far larger than tarantulas need. I’ve watched the show tanked , very impressive builds .
Worlds largest t likes anything 15g + I’d bet . It would be intriguing to see the sized tanks people keep there 8-10” + spiders in . No way to tell from pics.

 

[AphonopelmaTX]

I got my phampho adult in a 15 gallon long I think 7-8” t an estimate can’t seem to measure her, the pink foot ofc get a lot larger ..!!

No, they don't. Theraphosa apophysis will reach about 8 inches long max.

Yeah. Adult T. Apophysis has an adult DLS of 10inch at least.

Nope, sorry. If you ever buy one thinking they will reach 10 inches long, you will be disappointed.

true, i would even say having 2x2 times legspan in usable surface is the absolute minimum, hence the 40x40

sure there are 10" Theraphosa but 8-9" is probaly average

above that i would go for the dimentions that fit your space best, having a shelf half-filled by the enclosure just looks off

This checks out.

I had a Theraphosa stirmi male that was almost 10 inches long and I housed in a Container Store brand clear storage box with the dimensions 27-1/8" x 16" x 12-3/8" h. Even that was a bit too small because giant spiders need giant hides. I used a 9 inch long Fluker's wooden half log as a hide and there was barely enough space to fit that and the spider in the same container. When my T. stirmi male matured, it stopped using the hide so it had more space to move which was good for it, but bad for me (LOL). I also had a female that reached about 8 inches long in the exact same setup and there was just enough room for it. The female hardly ever left the comfort of its hide which made my life a whole lot easier!

Here is the link to a picture of my giant male T. stirmi.

https://arachnoboards.com/threads/theraphosa.37152/post-3241674

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

No, they don't. Theraphosa apophysis will reach about 8 inches long max.



Nope, sorry. If you ever buy one thinking they will reach 10 inches long, you will be disappointed.



This checks out.

I had a Theraphosa stirmi male that was almost 10 inches long and I housed in a Container Store brand clear storage box with the dimensions 27-1/8" x 16" x 12-3/8" h. Even that was a bit too small because giant spiders need giant hides. I used a 9 inch long Fluker's wooden half log as a hide and there was barely enough space to fit that and the spider in the same container. When my T. stirmi male matured, it stopped using the hide so it had more space to move which was good for it, but bad for me (LOL). I also had a female that reached about 8 inches long in the exact same setup and there was just enough room for it. The female hardly ever left the comfort of its hide which made my life a whole lot easier!

Here is the link to a picture of my giant male T. stirmi.

https://arachnoboards.com/threads/theraphosa.37152/post-3241674

Glad we got experts like you around I just assumed they got same size as t stirmi just thinner bodied. Thanks , yeah every care sheet says they get 8-13” …go figure .

Yeah I love 20 gal longs. Great tanks for aquascaping I just forgot about them momentairly
I personally wouldn't call it massive. I've got a 40gal breeder that houses an axolotl in the house massive tanks to me are like 125gals. But. I was a fish person long before I was an invert person.

But yeah, if a 20long will keep the big girl happy, then that's a good bit easier to manage. Weight wise and money wise at least. Space isn't an issue.


It would. But, we'll probably end up buying a shelf just for her enclosure, so it's the right size. The only place we have big enough rn is my desk, and I've already given like 75% of my work space to some of our various pets.

for info in size of a 15 here’s a few pics the spider is pretty large in the pic 7-8” as said before . Has tons of roaming space , but 20l is fine choice also. I guess the Goliath pink foot similar sized according to the last post by a helpful moderator.
who knows It very well may get over 9” .. depending on specimen . Maybe 7-8”’is average?

 

[TechnoGeek]

My female T apophysis is already pushing 6 inches at a few months old, I'm pretty sure 10 inch DLS is very possible if not probable. They're not as heavy bodied as the other 2 in its genus but they have longer thinner legs.

At this size I'd say a 20" long x 10 or 11 inches wide by 12 inches high should be good enough.