surival of the meanest

[Randolph XX()]

it's Fer De Lance snake, did i spell it wrong?

 

[Beardo]

Like someone else mentioned, I don't think that is a Garter Snake....looks more like an Eastern Ribbon Snake to me.

tt's just a garter snake, no venom. something like a drain snake lol

Actually, Garter Snakes do have Duvernoy's Glands (venom glands) but no ducts that go to any of their teeth....they also have a slightly toxic saliva that can cause adverse reactions in some people (I've been bit by Garters before and it swelled up and itched like crazy).

Also....just curious, but what is a 'drain snake'? Never heard that one before.

 

[common spider]

Its like the old saying.........................




THERE ARE 2 SIDES TO EVERY STREET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[FryLock]

today went for some T hunting.. we caught about 15 pix. a mixture of C.validas and P.inemis. upon arrival of our hunting ground. i caught my self a garter snake.. its looks weak. upon picking it up. i saw that it was very badly beaten up either by people or cats. so i brought it back n wedge a war with my H.schimiti.

With out taking any side im just interested were Garter's/Ribbion's are found wild in Singapore seeing as there genus is new world.

 

[Elizabeth]

Interesting question, which made me hunt (and hunt! and hunt!) on Google. Perhaps for lack of a better translation, he resorted to a "garter snake", but doesn't this mud snake look like his catch? This "rainbow water snake" (Enhydris enhydris) is found in Singapore. Seeing as it is semi-aquatic, has the stripes, could this be it? The drainsnake?

http://www.fieldmuseum.org/aquaticsnakes/mud_snakes.html

I'm not completely sure, but the text seems to imply that this is a rear-fanged venomous snake, although harmless to humans. I would say that is one lucky T!

 

[death1]

I think we're missing the big point... Is it right to feed lower/"acceptable" life, to another, if they're incapable of sustaining life on their own? :?

 

[Elizabeth]

No, I'm not missing the point. That's a point of interest to you, not to me. I'm just discussing what interests me.

 

[vespa_bicolor]

Used to live in Singapore. And I believe that is a common or painted bronzeback or similar species, genus Dendrelaphis. A couple of links found below.

http://www.ecologyasia.com/verts/snakes/painted_bronzeback.htm

http://www.wildsingapore.per.sg/discovery/factsheet/snakepainted.htm

It's probably not Enhydris because those snakes are greatly different in structure; the head looks kind of weird and it has a more stout shape.

 

[death1]

No, I'm not missing the point. That's a point of interest to you, not to me. I'm just discussing what interests me.

I respect that. Point taken.

 

[Elizabeth]

Thanks, D. I read and respect other people's opinions, too.

Vespa, I really can't tell the difference just from these pics, but I'll trust you, since you've been there. They all look similar: his catch, the mudsnake and then the two links you posted. Anyway, sounds like garter snake was used loosely. That works.

 

[jdcarrel]

didn't the snake bite the t once it attacked? that looks a bit dangerous.

 

[Beardo]

OK, I feel like a retard now lol.....I didn't even look and see where the peron's location was. If it is a native species to Singapore, its definitely not an Eastern Ribbon Snake LOL. Please excuse my laziness.

 

[kyle_de_aussie]

tt's just a garter snake, no venom. something like a drain snake lol

If the snake has fangs it has some degree of venom
so do these guys got injectors or just teeth like say a legless lizard has?

 

[Jetzie]

no fangs at all.

hey ralphond20: your avatar's cool! is that a Atrax or something? (not versed in them but a growing fan)

 

[Lasiodora]

If the snake has fangs it has some degree of venom
so do these guys got injectors or just teeth like say a legless lizard has?

Not true. Corallus caninus has fangs and so does Morelia viridis and many other non-venomous snakes do too. Fangs are not a characteristic that make a snake venomous.
Mike

 

[Beardo]

Not true. Corallus caninus has fangs and so does Morelia viridis and many other non-venomous snakes do too. Fangs are not a characteristic that make a snake venomous.
Mike

lol....If you wanna get *really* technical, the term "fang" only applies to venomous snakes. While some species such as ETBs and Chondros do have enlarged teeth, they are not venomous, and therefore just have "big teeth."

 

[Heartfang]

What was this long discussion about? :?

 

[Lasiodora]

lol....If you wanna get *really* technical, the term "fang" only applies to venomous snakes. While some species such as ETBs and Chondros do have enlarged teeth, they are not venomous, and therefore just have "big teeth."

Don't mean to be a pain but:

Pronunciation: 'fa[ng]
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, that which is taken, from Old English; akin to Old High German fang seizure, Old English fOn to seize -- more at PACT
1 a : a long sharp tooth: as (1) : one by which an animal's prey is seized and held or torn (2) : one of the long hollow or grooved and often erectile teeth of a venomous snake b : one of the chelicerae of a spider at the tip of which a poison gland opens
2 : the root of a tooth or one of the processes or prongs into which a root divides
3 : a projecting tooth or prong

Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Take a look at #1
So like I said, fangs are not the only thing that make a snake venomous or any animal for that matter. eg. Heloderma sp. do not have fangs and are venomous.

Sorry for the side track.
Have a nice day ,
Mike

 

[bagheera]

philosiphy 1100,
free will contains certain amount of evils, but we need free will in the world, if God is all PKG(all powerul, all knowing, all good), he won't let any evil exsist, hence there is no God
-Elliot Sober

Of course, Thomas Aquinas used the presence of evil to prove the deity's existence. It all begs the question, however and becomes moot! ;P

BTW Is that a trapdoor on your avatar?

 

[bagheera]

Garter snakes *certainly* have fangs. Nice long backwards curving ones. I know quite well as I once spent a half an hour coaxing off my finger. He swallowed my middle finger, up to my hand! Cut my finger to ribbons once he was extracted! :8o