Genus Stromatopelma

[persistent]

S. calceatum

 

[catfishrod69]

Would be pretty nice if we could add other species to this thread.

 

[Mako16]

 

[-=}GA']['OR{=-]

Would be pretty nice if we could add other species to this thread.

Could not agree more...these demon's are some of my favorites. Would love to have S. satanas! An all black Stromatopelma would be amazing!

Vobiscum Satanas!

 

[Mako16]

I personally don't believe there's S.satanas out there ..

These are the ''Specimen Records'':

codra satanas Berland, 1917
Scodra satanas Smith, 1986
Scodra satanas Smith, 1987
Stromatopelma satanus Smith, 1990
Stromatopelma satanas Peters, 1998
Stromatopelma satanas Schmidt, 2003

And there's no single photo of S.satanas.. and I think they've already had cameras in 2003......

 

[-=}GA']['OR{=-]

I personally don't believe there's S.satanas out there ..

These are the ''Specimen Records'':

codra satanas Berland, 1917
Scodra satanas Smith, 1986
Scodra satanas Smith, 1987
Stromatopelma satanus Smith, 1990
Stromatopelma satanas Peters, 1998
Stromatopelma satanas Schmidt, 2003

And there's no single photo of S.satanas.. and I think they've already had cameras in 2003......

Ok... so... Mako 16 does not believe they exist....so they must not exist. Even with "Specimen Records" lol

 

[Mako16]

Where are they then? If you discover something , you take a picture of it, or i'm wrong? I can also tell you that I have discovered a new lizard in my area.. and without picture you will not believe me
Like I said .. they've had cameras in 2003. And the funny thing is, it's been 12 years since last spotted. Maybe they did exist, but they are probably extinct. Or do you think they are just good at hiding? lol

 

[fuzzyavics72]

The problem with Africa is that there's so many civil wars going on it's unbelievable. I don't know where this species is located, but maybe hobbyists and scientists can't get to where their located. I bet they're around somewhere

Catfishrod was telling me about a red species of stromatopelma. That would be soooo sweet!

 

[-=}GA']['OR{=-]

Where are they then? If you discover something , you take a picture of it, or i'm wrong? Like I said .. they've had cameras in 2003. And the funny thing is, it's been 12 years since last spotted. Maybe they did exist, but they are probably extinct.

Are you sure someone saw this animal 12 years ago?
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/sho...an-T-s-ever-been-available-in-the-hobby/page2

Read the last post by Steve Nunn....I'm not sure that the area in question is still volatile, but I'm pretty sure someone would have been looking for these if it was not.

Also crotalus has eluded to the fact that no one has seen them since description in 1917. There are still parts of the world that are still inaccessible due to a variety of reasons, whether it be civil unrest, geography, or government regulations.

Beat me to it FuzzyAvics! NIce!

 

[fuzzyavics72]

Thanks Gator. I kinda thought it was common knowledge that most African species are off limits due to civil wars, geographic location, and government regulations.

We would need three teams of Seals to get us to our destination lol. I don't think our government would want to waste soldiers or funding this trip to find tarantula's.

 

[Mako16]

Are you sure someone saw this animal 12 years ago?

Well yes.. it was first seen and described in 1917 and last spotted in 2003 by schmidt obviously.

Also crotalus has eluded to the fact that no one has seen them since description in 1917. There are still parts of the world that are still inaccessible due to a variety of reasons, whether it be civil unrest, geography, or government regulations.

That's true... there's still some war going on in DR Congo.

 

[-=}GA']['OR{=-]

Thanks Gator. I kinda thought it was common knowledge that most African species are off limits due to civil wars, geographic location, and government regulations.

We would need three teams of Seals to get us to our destination lol. I don't think our government would want to waste soldiers or funding this trip to find tarantula's.

HaHa! Yeah man...that would be a rough trip...let alone dealing with all the fauna, and hemorrhagic viruses that would want to hurt people as well!

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Well yes.. it was first seen and described in 1917 and last spotted in 2003 by schmidt obviously.




That's true... there's still some war going on in DR Congo.

Did he see the spider in situ, or just review the type specimen?

 

[Mako16]

Did he see the spider in situ, or just review the type specimen?

That's what I was talking about.. we don't know that because there's no picture evidence You can ask Schmidt if he really have seen it.

There's also other Stromatopelma sp. described in world spider catalog.. and here are the dates when they were 'last seen'

Stromatopelma batesi (Schmidt, 2003)
Stromatopelma satanas (Schmidt, 2003)
Stromatopelma fumigatum (Schmidt, 2003)
Stromatopelma pachypoda (Gallon, 2008)

 

[-=}GA']['OR{=-]

Well yes.. it was first seen and described in 1917 and last spotted in 2003 by schmidt obviously.




That's true... there's still some war going on in DR Congo.

You stated that he "obviously" saw the animal in the wild, therefore why did he not take a photo. Kind of a contradiction. I'm pretty sure if he saw the spider he would have documented it. I'm just going to assume he was reviewing the type specimen.

Also, I'm fairly confident that they still exist somewhere over there. Tarantulas are readily adaptable, and as evidenced with the released Brachypelma vagans colony in Florida they are hard to eradicate even with a vigorous pesticide assault.

 

[Mako16]

You stated that he "obviously" saw the animal in the wild, therefore why did he not take a photo. Kind of a contradiction. I'm pretty sure if he saw the spider he would have documented it. I'm just going to assume he was reviewing the type specimen.

Also, I'm fairly confident that they still exist somewhere over there. Tarantulas are readily adaptable, and as evidenced with the released Brachypelma vagans colony in Florida they are hard to eradicate even with a vigorous pesticide assault.

How can you make a review of something you don't have? .. Let's end it up here and let's say the S.satanas (and other sp. of Stromatopelma) are still somewhere out there in Africa.. but as long as we don't see the fresh pictures we can't say a lot

 

[-=}GA']['OR{=-]

How can you make a review of something you don't have? .. Let's end it up here and let's say the S.satanas (and other sp. of Stromatopelma) are still somewhere out there in Africa.. but as long as we don't see the fresh pictures we can't say a lot

They "have" the type specimen. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. =) The species definitely needs further review and fresh documentation.

 

[fuzzyavics72]

We are every animals worst fear. Humans are like viruses, we drain all of the natural resources from one area and move on. As long as we aren't over poaching these arachnids (we aren't clearly because they aren't in the hobby) from the wild or destroying their environment, they should be thriving.


Africa is super beautiful and has some of the greatest animals on this planet, but in Africa danger is lurking around each corner.

 

[-=}GA']['OR{=-]

We are every animals worst fear. Humans are like viruses, we drain all of the natural resources from one area and move on. As long as we aren't over poaching these arachnids (we aren't clearly because they aren't in the hobby) from the wild or destroying their environment, they should be thriving.


Africa is super beautiful and has some of the greatest animals on this planet, but in Africa danger is lurking around each corner.

Well said... we are the scourge of this planet. Most of what we do is not symbiotic in any shape or form.

 

[fuzzyavics72]

Thank you kind sir. The worst of it all is that we think we're God's great gift to the planet. We will destroy ourselves before we destroy this planet. It's that old thinking that earth is in the center of everything , but we clearly aren't.

 

[-=}GA']['OR{=-]

Thank you kind sir. The worst of it all is that we think we're God's great gift to the planet. We will destroy ourselves before we destroy this planet. It's that old thinking that earth is in the center of everything , but we clearly aren't.

Ah yes...narcissism at it's finest.