Strange person on reddit tries to communicate to his jumping spider through stimulating a mating dance.

[remarah1337]

What the hell is reddit? People on there do bad husbandry galore, /r/tarantulas included, and I don’t even own a tarantula. >_<

https://www.reddit.com/r/jumpingspiders/comments/xamolf
When he tries to simulate the mating dance to his juvie female jumper (who is not even mature enough for mating) she gives him a threat posture (horizontal leg posturing, lifting pedipalps to present fangs) and he in denial that it is a threat posture. He is just stressing the jumper out for no reason ><

He wants to be able to communicate with it to better understand their world without anthropomorphizing? Idk it’s just weird. But I feel like he’s just stressing the jumper out seeing as it’s giving him threat postures.

Don’t send hate to him, I just find it so crazy for someone to do.

 

[Pmurinushmacla]

I got banned from there for calling out somebody handling some ow. They said "iTs NoT sTrEsSeD yOu CaNt TeLl," and how I need to mind my business and handling isnt harmful and blah blah blah.

 

[remarah1337]

I got banned from there for calling out somebody handling some ow. They said "iTs NoT sTrEsSeD yOu CaNt TeLl," and how I need to mind my business and handling isnt harmful and blah blah blah.

I agree, tarantulas shouldn’t be handled. Also, especially old worlds. You can experience 1-2 weeks of severe symptoms and some cases months later. People do stupid stuff on reddit. Sometimes I think its just to avoid the criticism of arachnoboards.

People are very passionate about things on here because they want the best for their arachnids.

 

[Pmurinushmacla]

I agree, tarantulas shouldn’t be handled. Also, especially old worlds. You can experience 1-2 weeks of severe symptoms and some cases months later. People do stupid stuff on reddit. Sometimes I think its just to avoid the criticism of arachnoboards.

People are very passionate about things on here because they want the best for their arachnids.

They have a rule against discussing it, so youll see tons of people handling them there. A ton of people agreed with me too, seems the mods just want to power trip and impose their beliefs on handling on everyone.

 

[remarah1337]

They have a rule against discussing it, so youll see tons of people handling them there. A ton of people agreed with me too, seems the mods just want to power trip and impose their beliefs on handling on everyone.

A mod went on a power trip recently on /r/tarantulas about how a beginners tarantula lost a leg (probably due to the holes being too big) and attacked him relentlessly for it. Like, bad. Mod was on a full blown power trip and it was insane. He attacked anyone who disagreed with him and threatened to lock the thread.

Beginners make mistakes. Relax. I’ve seen threads about missing legs on arachnoboards. They regrow. Try to avoid it as much as possible, of course! But we all have made mistakes in this hobby.

 

[viper69]

There’s a ton of stupidity on Reddit on Ts

I liken it to all the village idiots central gathering place

 

[AshtheSpider]

When I was on Reddit someone was cohabiting a Carolina Versicolor and Avicularia avicularia in a 20 gallon terrestrial enclosure when I said they should separate them and change it to arboreal he said they where fine and that they where “friends” 2 days later I found on his yt that he was making a fight too the death video (excuse my bad English I’m taking lessons)

 

[remarah1337]

When I was on Reddit someone was cohabiting a Carolina Versicolor and Avicularia avicularia in a 20 gallon terrestrial enclosure when I said they should separate them and change it to arboreal he said they where fine and that they where “friends” 2 days later I found on his yt that he was making a fight too the death video (excuse my bad English I’m taking lessons)

That is terrible. Ugh. :’(

 

[viper69]

When I was on Reddit someone was cohabiting a Carolina Versicolor and Avicularia avicularia in a 20 gallon terrestrial enclosure when I said they should separate them and change it to arboreal he said they where fine and that they where “friends” 2 days later I found on his yt that he was making a fight too the death video (excuse my bad English I’m taking lessons)

Should round up all those redditors, drop them on an island so they can weed out the stupidity genes.

 

[Wolf135]

Most threads on reddit are larps so take everything with a grain of salt there.

 

[kadupul]

Sometimes I think its just to avoid the criticism of arachnoboards.

On the note of "criticism".

I do agree with you guys that there's a lot of bad husbandry out there, but I also think that the "correcting" oftentimes gets handled on here terribly. I see a lot of name calling and people being quite rude to the OPs on this forum. Frankly, I think it just does more harm to the spider and the owner since they're probably pretty well discouraged from ever coming back here for help after some of the replies I've seen.

 

[Jonathan6303]

It’s Reddit, what do you expect.

 

[remarah1337]

On the note of "criticism".

I do agree with you guys that there's a lot of bad husbandry out there, but I also think that the "correcting" oftentimes gets handled on here terribly. I see a lot of name calling and people being quite rude to the OPs on this forum. Frankly, I think it just does more harm to the spider and the owner since they're probably pretty well discouraged from ever coming back here for help after some of the replies I've seen.

You’re right. I’ve seen a couple threads on here that the comments were completely uncalled for. It is true that people will learn when you address them with respect, not belittle them or make fun of them.

 

[The Snark]

It just occurred to me reading this thread that the village idiots as on Reddit, would benefit from seeing a proper movie being made. The behind the scenes activity that goes into all the details. For every actor seen in the movie there is often as many as 30 or even up around 50 people, each with a specific job they are trained and experienced in doing.
Focusing on animals in making these proper movies, there is always an expert closely monitoring everything to do with the animal. SPCA presence is common along with a team headed up by an expert who makes certain the animal health and welfare is top priority. The expert has a team each with an assignment. The handler(s), the scene safety, actor safety and so on.

There is a couple of videos out there of Steve Irwin and his production crew making his videos. A half hour video often takes a lot of people a couple of weeks to put together in a long slog of getting everything just right to convey all the salients and mood. Added to all the work was Steve, his right hand man Wes, and in one video another animal handler expert. Where the rot comes in, the extra hours or days of work, was Steve, Wes or that expert at any time could and did call off the filming as they picked up on the animal being stressed. Everything comes to a screeching halt while the animal is cared for and calmed down.

One Irwin video I'm thinking of there was a huge crowd of people working on the film, they are in the outback, hot sun over 100F. The entire segment finished product was less than three minutes, production took well over a week. Steve rescuing a King Brown getting it off a road. Everyone gets called off the job over and over as the snakes, two stars in that sequence, get put in a bag and set in a vehicle with the air condition going until all three animal experts agreed it was calm and de-stressed. This was wash, rinse, repeat unknown how many times. The snakes health and welfare paramount over all else.

 

[remarah1337]

It just occurred to me reading this thread that the village idiots as on Reddit, would benefit from seeing a proper movie being made. The behind the scenes activity that goes into all the details. For every actor seen in the movie there is often as many as 30 or even up around 50 people, each with a specific job they are trained and experienced in doing.
Focusing on animals in making these proper movies, there is always an expert closely monitoring everything to do with the animal. SPCA presence is common along with a team headed up by an expert who makes certain the animal health and welfare is top priority. The expert has a team each with an assignment. The handler(s), the scene safety, actor safety and so on.

There is a couple of videos out there of Steve Irwin and his production crew making his videos. A half hour video often takes a lot of people a couple of weeks to put together in a long slog of getting everything just right to convey all the salients and mood. Added to all the work was Steve, his right hand man Wes, and in one video another animal handler expert. Where the rot comes in, the extra hours or days of work, was Steve, Wes or that expert at any time could and did call off the filming as they picked up on the animal being stressed. Everything comes to a screeching halt while the animal is cared for and calmed down.

One Irwin video I'm thinking of there was a huge crowd of people working on the film, they are in the outback, hot sun over 100F. The entire segment finished product was less than three minutes, production took well over a week. Steve rescuing a King Brown getting it off a road. Everyone gets called off the job over and over as the snakes, two stars in that sequence, get put in a bag and set in a vehicle with the air condition going until all three animal experts agreed it was calm and de-stressed. This was wash, rinse, repeat unknown how many times. The snakes health and welfare paramount over all else.

Yes! Experiments take time and consideration to the animal’s welfare. This crazy redditor isn’t even an arachnologist, and couldn’t even tell what a threat posture was. Ugh. Leave it alone!

 

[The Snark]

It’s Reddit, what do you expect.

The occasional sapien making a contribution now and then? Or is this just wishful thinking?

 

[Jonathan6303]

The occasional sapien making a contribution now and then? Or is this just wishful thinking?

Wishful

 

[CRX]

Reddit is a load of crap. I try to tell people on there to come here for advice and most of the time they ignore it they know better apparently...makes me mad. How fragile does your ego have to be to feel attacked because someone says you're keeping a pet improperly? I could go on and on about these people but I won't, most of you know what I mean. Then after you call them out, they usually drop out of the convo and/or block you, and their animal continues its suffering. This is one of the reasons I wish the pet trade was abolished, but we know that could never happen.

 

[kadupul]

Reddit is a load of crap. I try to tell people on there to come here for advice and most of the time they ignore it they know better apparently...makes me mad. How fragile does your ego have to be to feel attacked because someone says you're keeping a pet improperly? I could go on and on about these people but I won't, most of you know what I mean. Then after you call them out, they usually drop out of the convo and/or block you, and their animal continues its suffering. This is one of the reasons I wish the pet trade was abolished, but we know that could never happen.

Do you usually go about it with this same tone?

Yes, people can be infuriating, but you still have to be professional and treat them like an equal when explaining their err to them. When people are treated like dirt, they're certainly not going to come back to you or whatever platform they're on for help. If not for the owner's sake, then do it for the animal's.

I feel that oftentimes, both here and elsewhere, that people feel "emboldened" because they don't have to face an actual human being when they say the things they say.

This hobby is niche enough already. We don't need to be driving fresh blood away.

Sorry for the rantings. These things have been bugging me.

 

[Frogdaddy]

Should round up all those redditors, drop them on an island so they can weed out the stupidity genes.

Unfortunately they would breed, thus passing on the stupid gene.