Tissue tells you if the person was dead or alive when the initial wound occured. If the tissue is already dead when the wound occured a medial examiner would know.
soldier dies from snake bite
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That is between extremely rare and unheard of from any Agkistrodon. The average snake bite death average is only .5% in the U.S. It would be extremely unlikely for someone to die from a large Crotalus much less a Cottonmouth. Cottonmouths are less potent and have less envenomation quantity. I have been around many past Agkistrodon bite victims. Many didn't even feel it was neccessary to go to the hospital and they didn't even face disfiguration. Others went to the emergency room and waited hours for their turn without facing ill effects. I have never heard of any one even facing aputation from an Agkistrodon even though they possess hemotoxic qualities. Much less an adult male instantly dying from one. http://www.toxinology.com/fusebox.cfm?fuseaction=main.snakes.display&id=SN0335
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I'm not sure I've ever heard of a 39 inch 13 month old. Especially in an area requiring brumation. In the zoo I volunteer at they have all three cottonmouth subspecies, a few specimens of each all adults and none of them are over three feet. I must have missed it, but where in the article did it say they killed it? Usually killing is common procedure for any animal that killed a person. Then they could have gotten an official length without using the "overestimation card."
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This is totally untrue. There has never been a verifiable case of someone having "an allergic reaction" or dying directly as a result from anaphylactic reaction to spider venom. This is a myth.
It's hard to get bitten by a cottonmouth as they really give you ALOT of warning when you are nearby, many of the cottonmouths I've found in the wild have actually "Found me" first by flashing those big white mouths with an audible hiss.
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Maybe a case has just not yet surfaced this dosent mean that it cant happen. A large number of people are deathly allergic to bees venom, my own grandfather included. Just because someone has not yet shown such a strong allergic reaction does not mean that it could not happen. Tarantulas are most certainly not as common as a bee, a large number of people do keep tarantulas and a larger number have them native to there area. Bees are very wide spread and thus more people have encountered a sting from them. Cotton mouths are the same not very wide spread and encountered by a large number of the public, and even though there are a large number of us on the boards we still do not make up a strong number in the population. So the severe allergic reaction in tarantula venom and cottonmouth may not be encountered as often but never say it cant happen.
as for this i have no idea what you said here pertains to what i posted, i spoke of allergic reactions not some dyeing simple from the bite or needing an amputation, and i never said he instantly died, i believe i said "MAYBE he tried to walk it off."
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I don't feel there's enough info in the story and the story might have gotten twisted around. Could be ligit or could be a military cover up ..all the way to a crooked forensic study ..told to blame snake bites. I would have to know more but right now, it's not enough.
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Every single one of these animals mentioned above have completely different venoms...it has nothing to do with how "common" they are. Please do some research on the topic.
You have to know how to identify a straight one-- before you can identify a crooked one. May I suggest a long forensic study for you before you take your knowledge of keeping a snake in a box to levels you have no business being.
I totally agree!
I'm saying the U.S average snake bite death percentage is .5%. In other words 1 in 200 people bitten by snakes in the U.S die from the bite. Cottonmouths and other Agkistrodon aren't too potent, injection rates are moderate and when they do inject it is not too much venom. Walking it off may have an elevated effect but still wouldn't just kill him like that. Very few have ever died from Agkistrodon.
Most of the people that died from snake bite were from the genus Crotalus. In my state [VA] Copperheads are very common and Crotalus are rare, [We have the two ssp's of horridus.] we also have Cottonmouths in the extreme south. In our history 5 people have died from snake bites. All were Timber Rattler bites! Even though Agkistrodon bit many hundreds more people none died. It was all Crotalus bites. So your chance of dying in the U.S from an Agkistrodon bite would be under .1%.
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