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Oophaga sylvatica, nice. One of the larger Oophagas, compared to the more commonly seen pumilio. These get around the size of D. auratus, IIRC. There's quite a bit variabilty in morphs and locales too. Tincman had some O. sylvatica 'Blisa' available a month or two back.
 

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Oophaga sylvatica, nice. One of the larger Oophagas, compared to the more commonly seen pumilio. These get around the size of D. auratus, IIRC. There's quite a bit variabilty in morphs and locales too. Tincman had some O. sylvatica 'Blisa' available a month or two back.
I thought you'd like that one. I didn't know it was one of the larger ones. There certainly seems to be a bit of localities for them. I wonder if they are all morphs of the same species?

This is old, but check this out on localities

http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/oophaga/45853-histrionicus-morphs-2.html
 

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I know morphs are often associated with specific locales in many dart frog species. I'm not as familiar with the Oophaga genus as I am with some others though, aside from the O. pumilio species somewhat. O. pumilio is the most common species kept in the hobby, though others like O. sylvatica, O. histrionica, O. vicentei, and O. lehmanni are around some too. But they're definitely a bit pricey. Saw some of the aforementioned O. sylvatica 'Bilsa' for sale shortly after we talked in this thread, they were $300 a piece for unsexed juvies which actually isn't bad. I've seen some lehmanni and histrionica go for well over a thousand per frog before, $4K for a sexed pair.
 

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I know morphs are often associated with specific locales in many dart frog species. I'm not as familiar with the Oophaga genus as I am with some others though, aside from the O. pumilio species somewhat. O. pumilio is the most common species kept in the hobby, though others like O. sylvatica, O. histrionica, O. vicentei, and O. lehmanni are around some too. But they're definitely a bit pricey. Saw some of the aforementioned O. sylvatica 'Bilsa' for sale shortly after we talked in this thread, they were $300 a piece for unsexed juvies which actually isn't bad. I've seen some lehmanni and histrionica go for well over a thousand per frog before, $4K for a sexed pair.
I'm not as familiar with Oophag either, but the genus sure seems to produce quite a variety of frogs. Even O. pumilio has locality populations last I knew.

300, not surprising. $4k, man, that's too inexpensive to be a quality frog, it must by a FrankenFrog!! :clown:

There are so many gorgeous PDFs out there. The list is almost endless.
 

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I'm not as familiar with Oophag either, but the genus sure seems to produce quite a variety of frogs. Even O. pumilio has locality populations last I knew.
Oh, indeed. There are many locales of pumilio, even multiple yet different populations in similar locales. Take the O. pumilio 'Bastimentos' for example: There are several differing populations in different parts of the island of Bastimentos, such as Red Frog Beach, Salt Creek, Cemetery, etc. As you know, I keep Cemetery Bastis myself. One of the cool things about that population is that they are polymorphic, having color variations.
 

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Oh, indeed. There are many locales of pumilio, even multiple yet different populations in similar locales. Take the O. pumilio 'Bastimentos' for example: There are several differing populations in different parts of the island of Bastimentos, such as Red Frog Beach, Salt Creek, Cemetery, etc. As you know, I keep Cemetery Bastis myself. One of the cool things about that population is that they are polymorphic, having color variations.
Indeed I learned that info on a documentary show about those frogs. The ones on Red Frog Beach are quite pretty, certainly some I'd want.

Then there are other thumbnails that are blue with red, think common name is Strawberry Dart Frog, they were on Reptiles magazine some years ago, more common now I believe.
 

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Then there are other thumbnails that are blue with red, think common name is Strawberry Dart Frog, they were on Reptiles magazine some years ago, more common now I believe.
The term 'thumbnails' in the hobby is usually reserved for frogs in the Ranitomeya genus, although some Oophaga are just about as small. The name "Strawberry Dart Frog" has become sort of a catch-all common name for Oophaga pumilio in general, even though many of them aren't red. The frog you're referring to is most likely O. pumilio 'Blue Jeans', which is red with blue limbs. Really sharp looking little frog. Though there are also others with blue and red, such as O. pumilio 'Escudo' which is much more rare and smaller, and from what I've been told is becoming quite scarce in the wild as well.
 

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The term 'thumbnails' in the hobby is usually reserved for frogs in the Ranitomeya genus, although some Oophaga are just about as small. The name "Strawberry Dart Frog" has become sort of a catch-all common name for Oophaga pumilio in general, even though many of them aren't red. The frog you're referring to is most likely O. pumilio 'Blue Jeans', which is red with blue limbs. Really sharp looking little frog. Though there are also others with blue and red, such as O. pumilio 'Escudo' which is much more rare and smaller, and from what I've been told is becoming quite scarce in the wild as well.
I thought thumbnails extended Ranito's..hmm I didn't know this. The frog I saw doesn't look like pumilio to ME, but maybe it's a morph. I will have to check the magazine if I still have it. You know when you stare at them a while, all the colors blend together at times. They could have called them Poison Paint Frogs ;) Blue Jeans is def. a sharp looking frog, always liked it. When I find the magazine I'll let you know.
 
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