Small roaches

stonemantis

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I considered this as an option, however I do not own the place I live in. My parents do and it was an uphill battle to get them to accept roaches. Termites are out, sorry to say :(

The cuban burrowing roach and the surinam roach are my two possibilities. Does anyone have first hand experience with either of these?

The surinams seem similar to lobsters in personality.
I use surinams all the time to feed my smaller tarantulas. They can't climb glass, they dont give off a defensive smell that I can detect. The males can fly though but, mostly jump and glide to escape danger. I recommend surinams over lobsters any day.
 

the_frog_kid

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not only can surinames climb but they are really aggressive
ie i found a snake skeleton in the tank of surinames i bought
not only that but i feed my colonie sick or injured roaches
i meen they are good food if they get eaten right away
just like eublaberus
i feed eublaberus left overs all the time
crickets mealies you know left overs lol
american roaches are the most aggresive tho
they hunt crickets and kill them lol
i think shelfordella tartara are your best bet
blatta lateralis is a stupid name
they are not blatta
they do not look like blatta or have anything in common
who ever started calling them that 3 years ago can come talk to me anyday
this is the kind of mixups that linneus wanted to prevent when he invented the system know as scientific names
blatta lateralis are weird
there are such a thing apparently but all they are (according to my sources) blatta orientalis hybrids with somthing else in that genus
lol who gives a who anyways
lets get rid of that stupid name anyways lol
if you want surinames do it!
but my friend started with 2 that he got in mexico in 2000 and by last year when he sold his biz. he had over 100,000
the parthenogenic system works i tell u!!!!!!
hahahaha
i think tartara are for you
or germans lol or australians lol
both pests tho
if your smart about keeping them you can without flaw
i have been
if you keep tartara in a 18 gallon rubber maid the blue kind
with a inch of soil and one layer of horizontal egg crates they cant get out
and if your parents are that worried use crisco around the edges just in case




thanx froggy
 

RVS

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I use surinams all the time to feed my smaller tarantulas. They can't climb glass, they dont give off a defensive smell that I can detect. The males can fly though but, mostly jump and glide to escape danger. I recommend surinams over lobsters any day.
Surinams can most definitely climb glass, and well. A few of mine managed to make it past the vaseline barrier, the only roach I've personally seen pull off that feat.
They are cheap, breed fast, and have small nymphs, though.
 

Elytra and Antenna

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Pseudomops septentrionalis would be the best species to use. They breed in mass numbers but are a field roach and don't survive any time loose in a home (unlike Surinams which will camp out in all your terrariums and potted plants and Pallids you'll find in the kitchen in your cracker boxes). Blatta lateralis you may also find taking over the kitchen and basement. Very few roaches are classified as pests. There is a reason Pallids, Surinams and Turkistan roaches are classified as pests. P.aegyptica are too slow growing and Firefly babies climb over vaseline. The other species mentioned have too big of babies for feeding any but the most massive 2nd instar Ts and burrow, which makes them difficult feeders.
*Blatta lateralis is the first description name for the species.
 
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Elytra and Antenna

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I use surinams all the time to feed my smaller tarantulas. They can't climb glass, they dont give off a defensive smell that I can detect. The males can fly though but, mostly jump and glide to escape danger. I recommend surinams over lobsters any day.
If you have males you don't have surinams.
 

Stylopidae

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Pseudomops septentrionalis would be the best species to use. They breed in mass numbers but are a field roach and don't survive any time loose in a home (unlike Surinams which will camp out in all your terrariums and potted plants and Pallids you'll find in the kitchen in your cracker boxes). Blatta lateralis you may also find taking over the kitchen and basement. Very few roaches are classified as pests. There is a reason Pallids, Surinams and Turkistan roaches are classified as pests. P.aegyptica are too slow growing and Firefly babies climb over vaseline. The other species mentioned have too big of babies for feeding any but the most massive 2nd instar Ts and burrow, which makes them difficult feeders.
*Blatta lateralis is the first description name for the species.
Thanks, Orin.

Where can I pick these up and how much do they usually cost?
 

the_frog_kid

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thats a Nauphoeta cinerea ie lobster roach
they eat the vasaline and crisco so you haft ro reallpie every 5 to 6 monthes haha




thanx froggy
 

Digby Rigby

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Does it specifically have to be a roach?

I didnt see where it said it had to be a roach in particular. Some animals that might be good that are non glass climbers are Thermobia domestica aka firebrats, adults top out at just under half an inch. The bean or pea aphid, they dont climb glass, dont make sticky secretions that ants crave thus no farming of them by ants, and they only eat bean or pea plants so will starve if those plants arent available, thus non infesting. They are soft bodied breed fast and and get less than five millimeters! For further info send me a private message.
 
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