Small frog okay to feed my emperor?

[Hoosier]

Hey ferigrim

Maybe you can leave your lights on outside and wait for those big boths and other insects to gather around there. Then use a fish net or whatever and catch them for your emp. If your afraid of the pesticides you can put them in a jar over a day of 2 and see if they die.

 

[carpe scorpio]

give em a piece of beef heart if you cant get food

I once witnessed someone feeding an emperor a hotdog, no, not a whole one.

 

[fusion121]

you get more "energy" from organisms lower int he food chain, so a cricket (which anoles eat) would be more nutritious for the scorp than the actual anole
i think this is true... (dont take my fact for truth tho)

how does that one work? Organisms higher in the food chain tend be larger and more energy dense, hence a anole would contain alot more energy then a cricket.

 

[G. Carnell]

ok they must tell you something different past A level,
i was taught that say, you eat a cricket and of course not all the crickets energy is passed on (lost thu assimilation etc..) so an anole would be less high in energy than if you ate the crickets instead

still wrong?

i mean mass wise, not anole vs cricket, like anole vs 10-20 crix or w/e
im blabbing now..

 

[Scorpiove]

ok they must tell you something different past A level,
i was taught that say, you eat a cricket and of course not all the crickets energy is passed on (lost thu assimilation etc..) so an anole would be less high in energy than if you ate the crickets instead

still wrong?

i mean mass wise, not anole vs cricket, like anole vs 10-20 crix or w/e
im blabbing now..

I don't know if you are right or wrong George but this goes along with you're thinking that lower is better, For arachnids it is much harder for them to digest vertebrate type food than invertebrate type food. An arachnid will used up a lot of energy digesting the meat of a vertebrate versus little energy burned to digest an invertebrate.

 

[fusion121]

ok they must tell you something different past A level,
i was taught that say, you eat a cricket and of course not all the crickets energy is passed on (lost thu assimilation etc..) so an anole would be less high in energy than if you ate the crickets instead

still wrong?

i mean mass wise, not anole vs cricket, like anole vs 10-20 crix or w/e
im blabbing now..

Ahh thats a slightly diffrent thing (but an easy mistake to make, personally i find biology really confusing), its to do with efficiency of energy transfer along a food chain, basically digestion is very inefficient hence when you eat a cricket you do not gain all the possible energy but only a small fraction of it hence along a food chain a great deal of energy is lost due to this inefficiency. A lizard is a more energy dense food source but only because it itself will have fed on lots of invertebrates, the scorpion would have to expend a lot of energy catching all those invertebrates so the anole is a source of greater energy fro the scorpion.

An arachnid will used up a lot of energy digesting the meat of a vertebrate versus little energy burned to digest an invertebrate.

I think the scorpion digestive enzymes are quite general, and ones like its protease digestive enzymes should be able to cope with vertebrate nutrients as well as invertebrate ones, so I think the two would be pretty much energy equivalent, though I've never read a specific paper on this.

 

[G. Carnell]

ok, thanks, i overlooked that factor,
so if you bred crickets to feed anoles to feed scorpions that would be perfect :O

 

[fusion121]

ok, thanks, i overlooked that factor,
so if you bred crickets to feed anoles to feed scorpions that would be perfect :O

far too much effort, if only you could get fast food for scorpions...

 

[leiurus]

Exactly!
But if your anole is hungry when you feed it to your scop, it won't be a good sourse of energy .
Dom