Scorpions to breed?

[Dhaynes]

I've been crious on breeding scorpions for the past few months. I've done a search and came across the topic "Easiest scorpion to breed?" And the list came mostly to some of the hotter species. Which, considering I frequently have my nieces visiting, and in the -off- chance a scorpling escapes (Even though I've never had an escapee before.) I don't want any of my nieces to be curious and try to touch if they find it, I don't want them to be potentially dangerous, outside of anaphylexis.

But from what I've gotten from the list, is either a P. Imperator or C. Gracilis, are there any others that are easy to breed?

 

[snippy]

There are insanely many species that are easy to breed. How about you name some you like and we tell you whether it's easy or not?

Regards
finn

 

[ShredderEmp]

Breeding isn't the hard part. It's raising the young and protecting them from mom.

Anyway, I imagine Heterometrus species wouldn't be hard.

 

[Olsin]

Thats like saying "i've heard the Chinese are easy to breed...are there any other nations that are easy to breed"!....chuckles, ok, i'm having a bit of a jolly up with you because your question doesn't really make any sense...All scorpions are easy to breed..It's the raising of the young that may differ slightly..You put an adult male and unmated adult female scorpion together of the same specie and they will mate..There's no rocket science there.....and most young are easy enough to raise. You simply keep them as you keep the parents with the exception of raising the humidity slightly with some species when it's getting to moult time...Again, no rocket science..

 

[Dhaynes]

There are insanely many species that are easy to breed. How about you name some you like and we tell you whether it's easy or not?

Regards
finn

Well.
P. Imperator
C. Gracilis
R. Junceus (I already have one, tempted to find a few more in hopes they molt out different genders.)
V. spinigerus

Those are some of the few. I want to breed.

Thats like saying "i've heard the Chinese are easy to breed...are there any other nations that are easy to breed"!....chuckles, ok, i'm having a bit of a jolly up with you because your question doesn't really make any sense...All scorpions are easy to breed..It's the raising of the young that may differ slightly..You put an adult male and unmated adult female scorpion together of the same specie and they will mate..There's no rocket science there.....and most young are easy enough to raise. You simply keep them as you keep the parents with the exception of raising the humidity slightly with some species when it's getting to moult time...Again, no rocket science..

Well, I've heard of some scorpions who devour eachother before breedng, which makes them difficult (Slight miscalculation to the size of prey before attempt, I'd assume?) Like I've been told S Mesaensis would be difficult, due to their great adaptation to the desert, they're more likely to devour their partner before an attempt at breeding.

 

[ShredderEmp]

Well.
P. Imperator
C. Gracilis
R. Junceus (I already have one, tempted to find a few more in hopes they molt out different genders.)
V. spinigerus

Those are some of the few. I want to breed.

You could look around the breeding reports area and see what people say and also get advice on what/what not to do.

 

[VictorHernandez]

There are even scorpions out there that don't even mate. They have asexual reproduction kinda, and there all females. But these are usually dangerous species like Tityus.

 

[Olsin]

Well, I've heard of some scorpions who devour eachother before breedng,

Smiles .. you mean one devours the other don't you...It would be a bit hard for them to devour each other! .. but yes, that can happen but it's not so much specie specific, it's more to do with the female being very hungry or maybe even the male .. Saying that though i've never had it happen to me and as long as both genders are well fed prior to mating it shouldn't be a problem.

The scorps you mention are all easy to mate in my opinion although again, if you haven't kept them properly or you've failed to ensure they are well fed then one may cannibalize the other....it happens...but it's not the rule..I wouldn't say that this or that specie is especially prone to this behaviour...

There are even scorpions out there that don't even mate. They have asexual reproduction kinda, and there all females.

It's called parthenogenesis .. search the forum for a list of these scorpions

 

[2nscorpx]

It's called parthenogenesis .. search the forum for a list of these scorpions

Once you find the list, most of those species aren't in the hobby circuit. Just to give clarification.

 

[snippy]

Centruroides are generally on the easy side, because most grow fast and are rather hardy.
I for myself found raising the species of Rhopalurus I have kept rather difficult. Many did not molt and died sooner or later as fat-ish juveniles.
Since P. imperator is on the slow side when it comes to the life cycle, I would not list it as strictly easy. I have never kept them but the simple fact, that even though so many keep them, actual captive breds are seldom seen seems to indicate that it is not that easy after all.

Regards
Finn

 

[Olsin]

Once you find the list, most of those species aren't in the hobby circuit. Just to give clarification.

I think that kinda depends on where in the world you are Tuhin .. Certainly here in Europe T. stigmurus, T. serrulatus, T. trivittatus, T. confluens, H.hottentotta and L. australasiae are reasonably easy to come across..

I for myself found raising the species of Rhopalurus I have kept rather difficult. Many did not molt and died sooner or later as fat-ish juveniles.

Which species of Rhopalurus have you had problems with Finn?..I've had no problems with R. laticauda, R.princeps, R. junceus and R.garridoi apart from a single R.garridoi sub adult female that i have which is still alive and has been sub adult for the last 13 months!.......and as for captive bred P.imperator there's plenty of them although sure, they are slow growers (which doesn't really have anything to do with a mating being successful or not)...I think most people just buy adults instead of shopping around for younger animals but i've certainly read loads of posts where people tell of their emps popping and then go on to talk about stuff like "yay!...my 2nd instars are now moulting to 3rd"..

 

[snippy]

Which species of Rhopalurus have you had problems with Finn?

R. junceus and R. pintoi.

i've certainly read loads of posts where people tell of their emps popping and then go on to talk about stuff like "yay!...my 2nd instars are now moulting to 3rd"..

At least in the german boards threads with people actually selling captive breds are seldom. And I would not judge the situation on the basis of such posts. A quick search through the classifieds of the last 3 months here revealed, that most selling P. imperator are semi or fully commercial dealers and only few classifieds contained even slings from a private source, let alone captive bred specimen, that have been raised to higher instars.

Regards
Finn

 

[2nscorpx]

I think that kinda depends on where in the world you are Tuhin .. Certainly here in Europe T. stigmurus, T. serrulatus, T. trivittatus, T. confluens, H.hottentotta and L. australasiae are reasonably easy to come across..

True, true, show-off. He is in the U.S., so I think he is limited. I thought T. confluens was not parthenogenetic, at least not mostly (different populations could be).

I've heard that R. bonetti and R. pintoi are troublesome when raising, because it's difficult to get them through later molts and the former is incredibly (understatement?) slow-growing. I have never kept either though.

 

[Olsin]

@Finn .. Yeps...i forgot to mention R.pintoi..They are hard!....of my initial brood of 9 i now only have one left and it's still 2nd instar...I won't bother with these scorps again because i'd rather they remained in the wild where they have a better chance of surviving than if i had them and only ended up killing them through incorrect keeping. Maybe someone else will crack these scorps and post a "how to" but until then i'll leave them alone..My female died as well a few weeks ago for no apparent reason although she was WC so it could simply have been old age.....anyone want a male? ...Not having any problems with junceus though..all mine feed and moult as they should and my first moulted to adult female a few days ago...I've got 8 of them and all female!!!..I keep them pretty warm and they also get heat through the night...I dampen the substrate well through and then leave that until it's dry for a couple of days before i dampen it through again..their water bowl's though are never allowed to dry out.
Maybe you're right with regards to P.imperator Finn...I only go by what i've read around the net .. and i've never bothered with ad's selling these scorps as emps and hets are not for me..

@Tuhin .. I'm not sure that all populations of T. confluens are parthenogenetic....maybe it could be location specific as in C.gracillis. Someone with a greater understanding of these scorps or someone who could be bothered to trawl through the net and find it out would be better suited answering that .. and yes, that is a understatement with regards to R.pintoi...My sole surviving 2nd instar has been 2i since the beginning of June, so thats a good 5 months.

 

[snippy]

R. junceus was my forth species of scorpion. It may as well be, that I was a bit incapable But the problems I had with them resembled those of my R. pintoi quite a bit.

Regards
Finn

 

[Dhaynes]

On the list of parthenogenesis, I get the list

Hottentotta hottentotta
Hottentotta caboverdensis
Centruroides gracilis (Cuban.)
Ananteris coinaui
Tityus serrulatus
Tityus uruguayensis
Tityus columbianus
Tityus metuendus
Tityus stigmurus
Tityus trivittatus
Liocheles australasiae


And since I've never heard of any of these that aren't dangerous (Excludin gracilis.) my list of Parthenogenics consists of nothing

However, I think I'll be leaning towards some of the Centruroides (Most likely Gracilis.)

 

[snippy]

Liocheles australasiae is not dangerous.

Regards
Finn

 

[Dhaynes]

Liocheles australasiae is not dangerous.

Regards
Finn

But I don't think I've seen at all, for sale since I've started my collection (Only about three years.)

 

[2nscorpx]

L. australasiae was imported into the U.S. this year. T. neblina is also parthenogenetic. I've sent you a PM.

 

[Dhaynes]

L. australasiae was imported into the U.S. this year. T. neblina is also parthenogenetic. I've sent you a PM.

Oh, okay. And i didn't get your PM