Scorp ID, from China

[Galapoheros]

Dang!, I did it again. So does anybody know the species name? They are in from China.

 

[calum]

definetly a Chaerilid by the looks of it. not sure on the species.

 

[Galapoheros]

OK, thanks, hmm, I'll look into it!

 

[tabor]

its impossible to tell from the photo but it is either a Scorpiops species or a Euscorpiops species. Of these two genera below is a list of the ones which reside in China, and you would most likely have to examine them in person and in detail to ID it 100% as all of them look pretty similar and that is one dirty scorpion:

Euscorpiops karschi
Euscorpiops novaki
Euscorpiops shidian
Euscorpiops vachoni
Scorpiops atomatus
Scorpiops hardwickii hardwickii
Scorpiops jendeki
Scorpiops langxian
Scorpiops luridus
Scorpiops margerisonae
Scorpiops pococki
Scorpiops tibetanus

Like i said, getting in down to the exact species with just those pics will be nearly impossible. It doesnt help that there are almost no photos of those species on line but google image search scorpiops and you will see a lot that resemble the one you posted.

 

[tabor]

definetly a Chaerilid by the looks of it. not sure on the species.

yeah it could be, but there are only two species from that family in China. Also, most Chaerilidae I have seen or heard about are small. Like, the size of a quarter. Not saying that you're wrong, just that we dont really know, and given its size, the limited number of species from that family found in China, and the size of the specimen pictured I just think it is more likely to be from the Euscorpiidae family.

What makes you think it is definitely a Chaerilidae?

 

[Galapoheros]

Thanks for the info! I tried to buy a male and female and pretty sure I did. Also, according to a much larger one I saw that "they said" was the same species and came in with the rest, these probably have one more molt to go. There is a chance that other bigger one is a diff species but it sure looked the same as these.

 

[tabor]

If they get even bigger than that i am doubting it is a Chaerilid mroe and more.

 

[tabor]

here, for instance is a Scorpiops species from Thailand that looks a lot like yours:

http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/scorpiops_thailand1.jpg

Note - I realize it is a picture from the Scorpion Files. I linked to it, I didn't post it with image tags, that is allowable as per the stickied rule at the top of the thread so don't get in a tizzy and report me or something

 

[calum]

I think you might be right tabor, I should have looked up ID keys before making my guess. it just looks so.. chaerilidish...

galapheros.. do you have any other shots of the scorp? chelae, telson, or the metasomal segments? (especially the first one...)

 

[Galapoheros]

No more pics now. The others sold fast.

 

[Vixvy]

It could be a Liocheles sp. Since 2 of the liocheles sp. can be found in Asia. China is in Asia. by the looks of it it really looks like Liocheles sp. and its a male.

 

[tabor]

It could be a Liocheles sp. Since 2 of the liocheles sp. can be found in Asia. China is in Asia. by the looks of it it really looks like Liocheles sp. and its a male.

i orginally thought that too, but then I remebered how small both the species of Liocheles I owned have been small.

I mean it LOOKS like a lot of things, Liocheles, Opistocanthus species, Scorpiops species... without a closer look and an inspection by an expert its impossible to say 100%.

 

[Kugellager]

http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/scorpiops_thailand1.jpg

Note - I realize it is a picture from the Scorpion Files. I linked to it, I didn't post it with image tags, that is allowable as per the stickied rule at the top of the thread so don't get in a tizzy and report me or something

If you own the image/copyright you are ok to tag it too! The rule is to protect the copyrights of the photographer/image owner.

This goes with ANY scorpion images posted here...If you don't own it just make a link to it.

John
];')

 

[tabor]

So I did it right, right?

you would think i know after 6 years on the board lol.

 

[Kugellager]

So I did it right, right?

you would think i know after 6 years on the board lol.

Yeah and Yeah-ahh!

];')

 

[tabor]

awesome, I have been here forever but some how manage to keep getting infractions lol. Although my last one was almsot a year ago.

 

[Michiel]

It is definetly not a Chaerilid. The size, shape of the chela and overall coloration pattern doesn't match any Chaerilid. This is a Scorpiops sp. , I can only guess the species, so this is not worth a lot, but I guess it is S.hardwickii.

Very interesting, and I think you are lucky to have those. They are rare in the hobby, so please breed them and send me some!

 

[Galapoheros]

OK thanks very much. I plan on trying to breed them. The female is pretty thin and not eating, but the male is very active and pigging out. They seem like a rock crevice dweller but I'm not sure, what you guys think? I have them in containers with flat rocks but I'm not keeping it very dry. You think I'm pretty close keeping them like that? I'm going to take pics of the pectines and post them, some people are curious to see.

 

[calum]

it does have the morphology of a scorpion suited to a burrowing/living under rocks lifestyle.

 

[pandinus]

looks to have a lithophilic morphology to me given the dorsoventral compression, broad flattened chela, strongly scupted claws on the tarsal segments, and thin metasoma. all ideal for living in the crevices of rocks and being able to grip their surfaces.



John