Scolopendra sp "hispaniola red giant"/ alternans

CHLee

Arachnobaron
Old Timer
Joined
Jul 8, 2011
Messages
336
Scolopendra sp. "hispaniola red giant" hailing from the south part of Hispaniola island, mainly around the dry forests of Jaragua national park, and appearing in one episode of Man vs wild. this species started appearing on European dealer lists around 2014, first marketed as gigantea/ galapagoensis, then changed to sp. "red giant". There are reports of them being offered earlier back but those reports remain unproven. DSC_1059.jpg terminal legs, ventral 15 spines hispa male 2.jpg terminal legs, dorso medial 20 spines hispa male 1.jpg coxopleural process, 7 spines hispa male 3.jpg 17 antennael segments, 5 smooth hispa male 4.jpg hair on antennae segments arranged in "rows"? hispa male 9.jpg leg 20, 4 dorso distial spines on prefemur hispa male 6.jpg tergite 6, margination starts hispa male 8.jpg leg 20, 4 dorso distial spines on prefemur hispa male 10.jpg prefemoral process 8 spines hispa male 11.jpg

So here we have Scolopendra alternans, until someone decides to reclassify the alternans species-group in the future.
 

dragonfire1577

Arachnodemon
Joined
Oct 7, 2015
Messages
697
Pretty cool! If you look on Inaturalist you can see these guys and more typical alternans overlapping a bit in range so I'd be interested to see what the conclusion would be if they were reclassified.
 

Scoly

Arachnobaron
Old Timer
Joined
Dec 4, 2013
Messages
488
I posted this before, but here's a photo of an alternans from Aruba island, which looks like half "standard alternans" and half "red giant":

download.jpeg
 

Comatose

Arachnobaron
Old Timer
Joined
Aug 25, 2004
Messages
506
Scolopendra sp. "hispaniola red giant" hailing from the south part of Hispaniola island, mainly around the dry forests of Jaragua national park, and appearing in one episode of Man vs wild. this species started appearing on European dealer lists around 2014, first marketed as gigantea/ galapagoensis, then changed to sp. "red giant". There are reports of them being offered earlier back but those reports remain unproven. View attachment 273200 terminal legs, ventral 15 spines View attachment 273201 terminal legs, dorso medial 20 spines View attachment 273202 coxopleural process, 7 spines View attachment 273203 17 antennael segments, 5 smooth View attachment 273204 hair on antennae segments arranged in "rows"? View attachment 273205 leg 20, 4 dorso distial spines on prefemur View attachment 273207 tergite 6, margination starts View attachment 273209 leg 20, 4 dorso distial spines on prefemur View attachment 273210 prefemoral process 8 spines View attachment 273211

So here we have Scolopendra alternans, until someone decides to reclassify the alternans species-group in the future.
Is this species/form currently available or has it been available recently in the US?
 

basin79

ArachnoGod
Active Member
Joined
Sep 14, 2013
Messages
5,893
Had one of these beautiful pede in 2014. They're like tanks. Pics just don't do them justice at just how stocky they are.
 

Teds ts and Inverts

Arachnobaron
Joined
Nov 10, 2017
Messages
507
Does anyone know why the S. sp. “Red Giant Hispaniola” are so expensive when compared to the regular alternans (especially considering they may be the same species)?
 

Salvador

Arachnosquire
Joined
Apr 13, 2013
Messages
141
Probably down to being less common, found in a national park, and haven't been bred all that much in the hobby, in comparison to Haitians.
 

Teds ts and Inverts

Arachnobaron
Joined
Nov 10, 2017
Messages
507
Probably down to being less common, found in a national park, and haven't been bred all that much in the hobby, in comparison to Haitians.
Interesting, but I don’t think they are confined to the National Park tho. Nonetheless, I definitely agree with your statement on breeding, and now that I think about it, I definitely think that is the main reason why they are on the same scale as the SA giants when it comes to price. Thx :)
 

Salvador

Arachnosquire
Joined
Apr 13, 2013
Messages
141
Interesting, but I don’t think they are confined to the National Park tho. Nonetheless, I definitely agree with your statement on breeding, and now that I think about it, I definitely think that is the main reason why they are on the same scale as the SA giants when it comes to price. Thx :)
Aye, quite right, no reason for them to follow boundaries. Another small point I can share from personal experience, as far as breeding goes, the babies are a pain in the backside to raise successfully.
 

Teds ts and Inverts

Arachnobaron
Joined
Nov 10, 2017
Messages
507
Aye, quite right, no reason for them to follow boundaries. Another small point I can share from personal experience, as far as breeding goes, the babies are a pain in the backside to raise successfully.
Yup, I’ve heard pedelings can be very difficult to raise.
 

antinous

Pamphopharaoh
Old Timer
Joined
Mar 28, 2013
Messages
1,667
Wow, stunning animal! How long do these guys generally live for? Do males have a shorter lifespan as well?
 

NYAN

Arachnoking
Joined
Dec 23, 2017
Messages
2,536
Wow, stunning animal! How long do these guys generally live for? Do males have a shorter lifespan as well?
I’m not sure of the lifespan, but centipede lifespan is pretty all over the place. From my understanding, the sex of the pede doesn’t affect lifespan.
 
Top