Scolopendra aztecorum?

cantthinkofone

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Hello! For those of you that have been in the hobby for awhile, do you remember seeing Scolopendra aztecorum? I remember someone selling them for 50$ or so. The only one I can find now is 225. I believe it's pricey how about you guys?
 

zonbonzovi

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Anyone willing to pay that should take a look at my collection of celebrity pocket lint(w/verification papers!) ;)
 

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Lol. I found it pricey too. But if they are the only place selling I guess it's fair enterprise.
 

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Lol. I found it pricey too. But if they are the only place selling I guess it's fair enterprise.
That's Comcast's business model ;) Honestly, if I wanted aztecorum/polymorpha variant/mystery 'pede...I'd take my $225 and fly down to look for it, but that's just me.

I'll have to look around to see if I have any Campbell material...I may have a spit cup from when he was on the tobacky :)
 

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Well put, but I'm sure agriculture an wildlife wouldn't be happy with you smuggling centipedes over the border, that is, if they catch you.
 

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Well put, but I'm sure agriculture an wildlife wouldn't be happy with you smuggling centipedes over the border, that is, if they catch you.
The pede in question may just be polymorpha, and it is also found in locations within the US.
 

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Seems like these are popping up in southern California... seen a couple "please ID this 'pede!" threads posted by Californians that find these in the house or in the yard. I'm sure Todd G will find himself a sucker dumb enough to drop $250 on it (cuz I bet the shipping ain't free neither) :O
 

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I was one of the first ones to bring this up back in 2010. Everyone shot me down when I said it was different and I have only found them in a couple places. I am 100% positive this is not polymorpha. The terminal legs of the young are way too long. I have also caught adults that I measured to be 7 inches. If you want S. aztecorum Ill sell them cheaper than that. lol way cheaper. I dont understand how he can sell them that high... they are a native pede. Its funny because I was just taking a pic of my sub adult when i jumped on. Ill posts some more pics of the babies and adults Ive caught over the last couple years. Then I can let you guys decide, my mind is made up already.
 

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Hey Inverts4life, I remember the scenario and even remember an out of country source that came to the "polymorpha" conclusion based on a specimen sent to them. I still have much doubt that this is polymorpha. The man-made keys may not be enough. To me the physical characteristics don't match up; long antennae, legs and long terminal legs, it just doesn't fit polys imo. Maybe only DNA analysis could clear it up.
 

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Bruce Campbell lint??? $1,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can see there are differences in this pede, but there are too many similarities as well.... Could just be a morphological variant of polymorpha. Or it could indeed be a different species.. DNA results would be interesting. How goes it Todd?
 

Greenjewls

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I've seen a lot of polymorphas... but never one with a black head. just sayin.
 

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Bruce Campbell lint??? $1,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can see there are differences in this pede, but there are too many similarities as well.... Could just be a morphological variant of polymorpha. Or it could indeed be a different species.. DNA results would be interesting. How goes it Todd?
Word!

On the polys I've seen the antennae and terminals seem to be at least 2/3s the length compared to these. But whatever, they are cool looking pedes.
 

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well it may be polymorpha but ive never seen one like this:http://www.flickr.com/photos/toddgearheart/9153352725/ and thats the pic used for sale.
(Smirk). Yeah...I was the one to suggest that as a potential ID...good to see it's being used as a sales gimmick:sarcasm:

No one with a juvy/adult and a camera has bothered to confirm the one characteristic that would make this obviously different from polymorpha(see past threads for that one characteristic). Why, I don't know? Take that potential ID with a grain of salt. As far as colors, consider polymorpha and heros and subspinipes and morsitans and, and, etc. DNA would tell the tale. The only person that has given a specimen the thorough treatment is krabbelspine, who suggested it had shown no appreciable difference from polymorpha. He's also the person that authored the paper on the changes to subspinipes(in other words, he's done his math)...but even he would happily consider rock solid, morphological evidence, I think. The thing about the antennae is the overlap in antennomere counts between the species. As far as the long terminals I've seen the same in heros and polymorpha at different life stages.

Yes, I'm still bothered by this. Can you tell? :laugh:
 

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I'm not looking for the colors and I already have a blue polymorpha. I'm just looking for one of the ones inverts4life (sorry if I messed up your username) has. I sent a pm to no avail. I find them nice looking.
 

cantthinkofone

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nanotrev, Kyuzo, galapoheros. sorry if i got those names wrong. any of those could probably tell you aztecorum or no. i just want one to keep not to id.
 
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