Scab on freshly moulted fasciatum??!!

Tula_Montage

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This C. fasciatum moulted sucessfully last night however i noticed this white scab on it's bum... is it a rupture? It it hard, crusty and not oozing. Is it's life threatning? Will it heal and go back to normal after the next moult? What could have caused it?

 

Hamburglar

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Just out of curiosity.. is it a MM now? the bump could be lots of things. It could be a cyst or tumor.. maybe a rupture. Unfortunately I dont know enough about their physiology to have many good answers. However, I don't think there is much you can do for it if it isn't actively bleeding or anything. If the tarantula isnt showing any other symptoms I would just try to wait it out.. sorry...
 

Tula_Montage

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I don't think it's a mature male. I bought it a week or so ago and knew it was in pre-moult then. Its around 10 months old and this moult took the legspan to 3 inches. I would have had a good look at the moult to sex it however it totally destroyed it lol.
 

penny'smom

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I don't think I would try to mess with it, just keep an eye on it.

BTW, if you are not seeing hooks, he's not MM yet. These guys do get hooks.
 

Tula_Montage

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I haven't really checked. I don't care what sex or age it is, I just hope it's going to be ok.
 

7mary3

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Tarantulas can't really "scab" like we think of it. What you're seeing may be a part of the molt that stuck to the abdomen, it could also be that it managed to bump itself on something while it was molting or immediately thereafter and it damaged the new exo skeleton. If it is behaving normally and is not bleeding, then there really isn't anything that you can do. Just make sure it has water and feed it normally after it has hardned up sufficiently.
 

Tula_Montage

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Thanks guys. It's looking ok at the moment... just sitting out in the open in the corner but is very responsive and quickly runs away to hide when I picked the tub up.
 

7mary3

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Thanks guys. It's looking ok at the moment... just sitting out in the open in the corner but is very responsive and quickly runs away to hide when I picked the tub up.

For starters, LEAVE IT ALONE RIGHT NOW. Don't pick up the enclosure etc etc for a while, just let it be. Right now it's super vulnerable and really susceptible to stress. If its in the open then go ahead and take pics, but that aside just make sure it has water and let it be. I'm willing to bet it'll be alright and that whatever the bump/scab/tumor/whatever will go away with the next molt. Keep us updated of course if things change with it.
 

Tula_Montage

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Oh absolutly, It's just I stack my tubs and had to get in to feed the vegans underneath. I will have a wee peek again in the morning but for now I guess there is absolutly nothing I can do. I guess if it was a horrible wound it would be oozing fluids everywhere and my poor wee fasciatum would not still be alive.
 

7mary3

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Haha, ok, no worries then. I had this terrible mental image of you picking up the tank and tilting left and right to try and get a response out of the T, lol. Yeah, just keep an eye on it, I wouldn't worry too much for now. More pics though if things change, and best of luck!
 

Tula_Montage

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HAHA nooooo. It's only wee so its in a little clear plastic flippy lid tub (I cannot for the life of me think of the brand name) and those are all stackable... I wouldn't dare take the lid off again, it was doing the funny feet dance with all that disturbance (although I spent a good 30 seconds taking it off with the smallest movements possible). I immediatley regreted taking the pictures earlier as it was a wee bit annoyed with presence. So no more decent pictures for a few days methinks... if its still alive. Im so devistated about this. I have had 2 other moults this week and they were perfectly fine.
 

7mary3

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I wouldn't get too devistated yet. The T is probably ok, just slightly deformed until the next one. If it's healthy, then no worries, it oughtta be back to looking amazing by the next molt{D
 

GoTerps

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Where did you get the spider from?

Looking at your photobucket, I see images of this spider in heavy premolt and I can make out the "sore" in one of the photos of the abdomen. It's just much less noticeable due to the size and coloration of the abdomen.

Even without seeing the necessary parts, that really looks to be a mature male.

Your seeing this protrusion more now with the decreased size of the abdomen.

It you got this spider from a pet shop/etc... it's likely WC (and not really C. fasciatum, but I don't want to go off topic here :) ) and this could be a parasitoid (some of these can live within the spider for quite a long time, even between molts, before emerging). It could be other things of course, and you see spiders with "hernias" like this that live for a long time.

Eric
 

Tula_Montage

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Its a CBB fasciatum bought from an extremely reliable source in the UK and was raised from a sling by a friend. I wouldn't add WC animals in any shape or forum to my collection. Thank you so much for the suggestions though.
 

Tula_Montage

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Ack poop you were absolutly right. It's a MM. Hes roaming around building elaborate web platforms and I caught a glimps at a nice set of claws... bummer.
 

GailC

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Sorry to hear your new spidie is a MM. Is there anyone around that you could do a breeding loan with?
Thats why I never buy a unsexed T unless its a sling, once they get to be 2"-3" there is no reason a experianced dealer can't sex it before selling.
I know you don't care much what the sex is but in a few months he will be gone and you will be out the purchase $$.
 

Hamburglar

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Yeah I figured it was a MM from the photo... I am not so sure I would breed him without knowing the source or condition of the spot on his abdomen. Just my opinion though....
 

Tula_Montage

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I absolutly agree - it would be an inheritable condition. Regardless of whatever happens I don't regret buying him. I have deffinatley learnt a lesson though... I seem to be having much for fun and success with the slings anyway :)
 
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