Sazimai or Orange Tree Spider?

[IllConceived]

Hi all,

So I'm considering whether to get either a L. Sazimai (ex Pterinopelma Sazimai), or the Amazonius Germania (Orange Tree Spider).

I already have a few terrestrials, one fossorial, and am getting a Trinidad Chevron (my first arboreal).

I believe I'll be comfortable with either, but maybe you all can chime in and help me decide.

What sort of growth rate for slings? Hardiness? Temperament?

I realize they are different in many ways, which is making it hard for me to decide.

Thanks!

 

[NMTs]

If you've got room for one, you probably have room for both... Just sayin'.

L. sazimai will grow much slower than the A. germani. The sazimai will be a testy terrestrial that will flick hairs and give threat poses, the germani will be more reclusive and bolty and exceedingly fast (almost like Poecilotheria fast). Both are hardy species.

If it were me picking, I would definitely go with the Amazonius, but that's because I'm kind of addicted to Psalmopoeinae - which includes Amazonius, Psalmopoeus, Tapinauchenius, Ephebopus, and Yanomamius.

 

[IllConceived]

I'm placing an order and don't have the money for both, otherwise I'd definitely grab them both.

I'm leaning towards the A. Germani, since I have a bunch of terrestrials already. I like the blue of the Sazimai but the orange of the Germani is just something else!

 

[viper69]

I'd pass on both

 

[jrh3]

Why not get another psalmopoeus species? There are some good deals on irminia right now in the classified section.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

Hi all,

So I'm considering whether to get either a L. Sazimai (ex Pterinopelma Sazimai), or the Amazonius Germania (Orange Tree Spider).

I already have a few terrestrials, one fossorial, and am getting a Trinidad Chevron (my first arboreal).

I believe I'll be comfortable with either, but maybe you all can chime in and help me decide.

What sort of growth rate for slings? Hardiness? Temperament?

I realize they are different in many ways, which is making it hard for me to decide.

Thanks!

Pterinopelma Sazimai is slower …other one can teleport.

 

[IllConceived]

I don't mind the challenge of a fast T. I feel like as long as you are prepared and calm you can deal with them.

And as far as getting an Irminia, they do interest me. Are Irminia pretty visible as adults? I've read the Germani is out often as an adult.

Is the biggest downside to the Germani its speed? That seems to be people's main concern. And can anyone provide anecdotal evidence that the speed is difficult to manage/deal with?

I don't mind getting talked out of getting a T, I just would like some more reasons why one over the other!

Thanks, this is really helpful. Especially for someone as indecisive as myself.

 

[Wenzer]

I don't have experience with the sazimai but I have had my adult female A. germani for a few months now, and I really enjoy her. The orange is very lovely in person and even with typical room lighting. She is indeed fast and was a little bolt-y at first but since she has really settled in, she is less likely to bolt lately and more likely to just quickly climb into her cork round.

I've noticed she is frequently visible when the room is darkened or at night, but often once I turn the ceiling light on, she may stay out for a few minutes longer then usually hides away, especially if I'm walking around or doing things in the room. I don't know how "typical" this would be for A. germani behavior, but I think it's possible that mine's a bit more reclusive because she could use an upgrade into her permanent adult enclosure. She does act a lot like my Poecilotheria slings: cautiously fast, more likely to dart into a hiding spot than make laps around the cage, but once settled in they've all gained a little confidence about staying in view.

The only other "drawback" I can think of, besides the speed, would probably be their venom being a bit more potent than other NW species since they lack urticating hairs but I don't know exactly how much worse it can be if bitten

 

[Arachnophobphile]

I'm placing an order and don't have the money for both, otherwise I'd definitely grab them both.

I'm leaning towards the A. Germani, since I have a bunch of terrestrials already. I like the blue of the Sazimai but the orange of the Germani is just something else!

How long have you had T's? Do you have or had arboreals before?

If you never had arboreals then I advise against the Amazonicus germani. The speed is unlike anything you'll be prepared for. Amazonicus, Pseudoclamoris and Tapinauchenius are IMO the fastest genus of tarantulas in the world.

My T. violaceus now almost 4 inches has finally displayed it's teleporting abilities.

Observing it at the top and side of the enclosure, admiring it's purpleness. It was immediately gone. When I say gone I mean from that spot to under the corkbark completely in it's web fortress in an instant.

The only way to describe it is you're looking at it then it's just gone. It's like it instantly vanished to another dimension.

 

[IllConceived]

How long have you had T's? Do you have or had arboreals before?

If you never had arboreals then I advise against the Amazonicus germani. The speed is unlike anything you'll be prepared for.

Thanks for the advice and concern. I've had Ts for a little over a year now. I've gone and pulled the trigger on the A. Germani. I'll be getting that and my P. Cambridgei next week, which will be my first two arboreals.

I'm comfortable around spiders and am confident in my abilities.

If what you say is true, one may never be prepared for a fast arboreal. So I'll jump right into the fire. I'll be on my toes when feeding and rehousing.

I'll either love it, or regret it. But honestly after a year with my terrestrials I wanted more of a challenge.

 

[Arachnophobphile]

Thanks for the advice and concern. I've had Ts for a little over a year now. I've gone and pulled the trigger on the A. Germani. I'll be getting that and my P. Cambridgei next week, which will be my first two arboreals.

I'm comfortable around spiders and am confident in my abilities.

If what you say is true, one may never be prepared for a fast arboreal. So I'll jump right into the fire. I'll be on my toes when feeding and rehousing.

I'll either love it, or regret it. But honestly after a year with my terrestrials I wanted more of a challenge.

As long as you set the enclosure up just right the T will run for it's corkbark and web. That is for when it's settled in it's new enclosure for feeding, water and maintenance.

My T. violaceus was more comical during it's last and final rehouse. It would go in and pop right back out and do a run around, not lightning fast, just looking for something to hide under. It was 2.5 inches.

Just today at almost 4 inches did it display it's teleporting abilities for the first time.

Rehouses is where the action is and will be the testing point.

There's methods for safely rehousing them. Safely as in safe for the T. Worse case scenario is it escapes and injures itself that or you never find it.