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Discussion in 'Zoo Trips (Man Made Habitats)' started by GQ., Jan 6, 2004.

  1. GQ.

    GQ. Arachnodemon Old Timer

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    Crotalus,

    Ahh, I see. After talking with one of the zoo employess I believed it was newly described and not merely a name change. I had no idea it was previously Trimerserus. It was the first time I've ever seen one. They have a few of them at the San Diego Zoo and one of the females even gave birth to several more. Only the one snake is on display. Yes, the zoo has an excellent herp display. They are also one of the premiere large zoos. We have memberships so I stop by frequently just to look at the herps and browse around. They have a ton of stuff going on behind the scenes as well. Great place.

    I've only found these two citations on Ermia mangshanensis. I'm trying to track down the papers. Anybody out there have them?

    Zhang, Fu-ji. 1998. Description of the distinct pit viper of genus Ermia (Serpentes: Viperidae) of China. Russian Journal of Herpetology. 5 (1):83-84. [Chengdu Institue of Biology, Academia Sinica, Chengdu 610041, China]

    Chen, Yuanhui. 1998. The current status of Ermia mangshanensis and conservation strategy. Sichuan Journal of Zoology. 17 (2):76-78.
     
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  2. Crotalus

    Crotalus Arachnoking Old Timer

    GQ,

    sorry cant help you with the papers. I know theres a german article about them in Sauria (if I remember correct, I´ll ask a friend about it).
    The Ermia are egglayers i think, and grow huge around 2 m!
    A few private herpetologists in Germany keep them and breed them.
    I have never seen one except for on pictures.

    Edit: I found the article:

    Gumprecht, Andreas, Donal M. Boyer and Kamuran Tepedelen. 2002. Die Grubenottern der Gattung Trimeresurus (Sensu lato) Lacépède Teil I: Anmerkungen zur Biologie, haltung und Nachzucht von Ermia mangshanensis (Zhao, 1990) [The Pitvipers of the genus Trimeresurus (sensu lato) Lacépède Part I: Notes on the biology, husbandry and breeding of Ermia mangshanensis (Zhao, 1990)]. Sauria. 24(4):1, 3-11. [agtrimeresurus@aol.com]


    /Lelle
     
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  3. GQ.

    GQ. Arachnodemon Old Timer

    Thanks for the tip! Right after I saw your post I found the reference on Herplit and also on Sauria's website. I tried to order it through Sauria, but the order kept erroring out. I'll keep trying. One of the co-authors is D. Boyer! Is this possibly the same D. Boyer that is the Reptile and Amphibian curator of the San Diego Zoo? Either way great stuff! Thanks again Lelle.

    Gilbert
     
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  4. Crotalus

    Crotalus Arachnoking Old Timer

    Youre welcome. Yes I would guess its the same person. I can get a copy of the article if you want it.
    Are you intressted in obtaining this species?

    /Lelle
     
  5. GQ.

    GQ. Arachnodemon Old Timer

    No it is okay. I believe I can find it with a little more effort. I really appreciate the offer though. I'm not interested in acquiring the actual animals since I'm in California which is gestapo on things like that. LOL. I know I know, there are two sides to the story, I'm not going to rant. Just too many laws here. I simply love reading up on and collecting papers on species I like. Mostly I've been concentrating on crotalid papers, but I'm beginning to branch out into other species that I find interesting.

    Happy herping,
    Gilbert
     
  6. Crotalus

    Crotalus Arachnoking Old Timer

    Just drop me a email if you change your mind. No problem, cos I will copy it for myself aswell.

    Ah yes Cali laws. In this field WE are the land of the free it seems ;-)
    A purchase of Ermia would leave a huge hole in your wallet, i heard something around 2700-4000 dollar each for babies...
    Yeah same here, I just enjoy reading the papers. I got hold of Thorell papers from 1870 (original) or something like that, which I bought. But it turned out to be in latin..
    Oh well...

    /Lelle
     
  7. zonbonzovi

    zonbonzovi Creeping beneath you Staff Member

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  8. San Diego Zoo

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  9. Prometheus

    Prometheus Arachnoknight

    Beautiful photos! When I went there a few years ago with my family it was a fantastic experience. They only thing I didn't like was watching the gorillas. They look at you and I see consciousness in their eyes and their movements. It makes me a sad to see them in a man made environment. They are safer in there but you can tell they long to be free.
     
  10. bwusstig

    bwusstig Arachnopeon

    Great Photos! The Mang Mountain Viper in question is no longer Trimeresurus or Ermia. Most recently the species was classified as Zhaoermia, and now it is Protobothrops mangshanensis. Taxonomists.....also, we have them on exhibit now at LA Zoo as well at the new LAIR (Living Amphibians, Invertebrates & Reptiles). Will be posting pics in the near future...
     
  11. Great pictures! The San Diego Zoo is always a favorite. The Safari Park is really awesome too. You can get super close to the animals.
     
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