Rose Hair Question

[Cyris69]

Will she web the container? I figured that is how she would find her prey.

Considering roaches don't move much in her container I don't know if there would be enough movement to catch it by vibes.

I know my scorps are great at it but I haven't fed them many dubias and I don't use crix for anything but my 2i jacksoni.

I know this is a n00b question but just curious.

Oh, BTW. I got all the water out of the substrate today. Then went over it with a hair dryer for about 10 mins now its moist but there is no water or anything when I squeeze.

 

[P. Novak]

Will she web the container? I figured that is how she would find her prey.

Considering roaches don't move much in her container I don't know if there would be enough movement to catch it by vibes.

I know my scorps are great at it but I haven't fed them many dubias and I don't use crix for anything but my 2i jacksoni.

I know this is a n00b question but just curious.

Oh, BTW. I got all the water out of the substrate today. Then went over it with a hair dryer for about 10 mins now its moist but there is no water or anything when I squeeze.

Yes, she will web her container, but not to the extent that you will see it very well. It's just a small layer of webbing over the substrate.

 

[cacoseraph]

Thanks guys, I'll try and setup a feeding schedule soon too.

Exams have been killer right now I haven't had much time to think lately.

meh... feeding schedule is not necesary. i feed my adult rosea something like 6-9 times a year unless i am breeding them. i feed the equivalent of about two adult crix when i do feed them. i make sure they have water in their dish for about one week out of the month in summer and don't sweat it in the winter. these suckers are built to be double tough.

Will she web the container? I figured that is how she would find her prey.

Considering roaches don't move much in her container I don't know if there would be enough movement to catch it by vibes.

I know my scorps are great at it but I haven't fed them many dubias and I don't use crix for anything but my 2i jacksoni.

I know this is a n00b question but just curious.

Oh, BTW. I got all the water out of the substrate today. Then went over it with a hair dryer for about 10 mins now its moist but there is no water or anything when I squeeze.

tremble sense is amazing. if your sub is packed down the spider will be able to sense about 1-2 legspanlengths away. it will be able to make precision strikes from about 1 legspanlength. if your sub is loose i expect the sensor range goes down pretty fast.


also... when live feeding i prefer to NOT drop prey right by the spider. i (and others) believe this leads to "transfer of prey agression" wherein the spider becomes conditioned to attack any small stimulus that is near it... including you and your tools sometimes. by and large i prekill/mangle feeders but when i feed live intacts i make sure to place them away from the predator and then "herd" them towards the predator.

 

[Mushroom Spore]

Will she web the container? I figured that is how she would find her prey.

Considering roaches don't move much in her container I don't know if there would be enough movement to catch it by vibes.

Trust me, a tarantula can feel it when you step on the floor on the other side of the room, if my jumpy GBB is any indication.

 

[Cyris69]

Wow, great responses guys!
Yeah, they substrate is very well packed. I knew they could sense them but to what extend I wasn't sure but now I do.

I won't drop any prey from now on next to it, it hasn't eaten yet so I'll make sure to place the prey elsewhere.

Wow, that seldom? I was thinking 4-6 crix every 2-3 weeks.
I read that care sheet and thats what it said. I want this as a pet not a breeder so is it fine if its a little fatter than they recommended?

I'll just watch when it's eating habits are and go from there.

Thanks again guys, I'm sure I'll have more ?'s later and that photo of the other rosea.

 

[cacoseraph]

I won't drop any prey from now on next to it, it hasn't eaten yet so I'll make sure to place the prey elsewhere.

well... it doesn't really matter if you don't ever intend to hold it. i play with pretty much all my taras and other bugs so i want them to be the least jumpy and "aggressive" as possible

Wow, that seldom? I was thinking 4-6 crix every 2-3 weeks.
I read that care sheet and thats what it said. I want this as a pet not a breeder so is it fine if its a little fatter than they recommended?
I'll just watch when it's eating habits are and go from there.

basically i feed bugs according to what it looks like they need. my rosea never really get a skinny butt so i never really feed them all that much. every once in a while when i offer them water they will drink for a few minutes and then go back to ingoring or spilling their water dish. this is my basic strategy for all my bugs, in fact. i dont' feed them by rote.. i feed them according to their perceived need... skinny bugs get fed more/more often than fat bugs. feeding by rote is definitely how i started, though. but like you said... i watched them and as i got more like, in tune with them changed to my current way of feeding

Thanks again guys, I'm sure I'll have more ?'s later and that photo of the other rosea.

cool cool. this is one of my favoriate species. i would love to get ahold of some red phase and try to breed them


oh, incidentily. some of my rosea will burrrow. when i bred my fav female she went to ground for months while she was taking care of her eggsac.

 

[Cyris69]

Yeah, I should have gotten the red phase, I could alwasy exchange it.

Yeah, I plan on holding it. It's been very easy going.

Doesn't move much at all usually sits in the same spot for hours unless it turns arund and thats about it.

 

[cacoseraph]

Doesn't move much at all usually sits in the same spot for hours unless it turns arund and thats about it.

that is where the "pet rock" thing comes in. i subject my bugs to pretty dramatic seasonal shifts in temps... it gets to ~50*F (er... carry the two... 10*C) in the winter and for a fairly long period my rosea sat "frozen" with one leg up in the air. over a period of like two weeks or so she finally got it down. it was pretty amusing

 

[kupo969]

Might want to go back and get that RCF Rosie you saw!

 

[penny'smom]

Yeah, I should have gotten the red phase, I could alwasy exchange it.

Why exchange?? Just have 2 spiders.

 

[Cyris69]

Still at home with the parent for 10 more months and I think 10 scorps(soon to be 8 2i jacksoni and now just 2 3i emps just traded my adult emps) and 1 t is way to much. They don't even know about the T

Should I go return it? The "red" phase just had a pink/red tend to it. Mine has the brown/orange tent.

I don't have a problem returning it, just say I heard the indentation was bad. I don't like to lie but if you guys recommend I get the red more pink one I will.

I just wish I could put them together Plus I can't afford anything else until at least spring.

Could you guys give me a few pics of a red phase so I can make sue before I bother going all that way?

 

[Cyris69]

It looks nothing like this.
http://giantspiders.com/G_rosea_red.html
Or like this
http://giantspiders.com/G_rosea_red_male.html

It jut has a light pink and red tent to it
Maybe b/c its not an adult.
I just get a picture before I make the trade.

Maybe I'm just crazy, non of the Grammostola species from http://giantspiders.com/gallery.html look like it color wise.

Edit**
Looks like this but without all that dark blood red solid on its body
http://webzoom.freewebs.com/chid/rosea rcf copychidsweb.jpg

Guess Again, I'll just take her with me check it out then see if I should make the trade. That is if you guys suggest it.
If it will turn out looking like that male or female above at the top of this post hells yeah I'll trade it

 

[vvx]

Photos often make colors look brighter than they seem in real life (some even experiment with lighting in order to change the look/make it look much brighter.) I don't notice that much of a difference in color forms in roseas, I'd say just keep what you got unless you're set on the other. After all you know the temperament of the one you have while the other one could be one of those psycho roseas.

 

[cacoseraph]

Photos often make colors look brighter than they seem in real life (some even experiment with lighting in order to change the look/make it look much brighter.) I don't notice that much of a difference in color forms in roseas, I'd say just keep what you got unless you're set on the other. After all you know the temperament of the one you have while the other one could be one of those psycho roseas.

i have seen HUGE differences between what appears to be the three ~accepted colorforms

normal/grey/brown/muddy

frosted pink

red


i was trying to find pics i posted of my female cuz i can't see photobucket at work. (i actually saw Cyris in the G. rosea breeding report when i was there... it made me giggle cuz we were both probably looking for examples of different morphs) she keeps this amazing hot metallic pink color throughout her whole instar. it is too gorgeous immediately postmolt but stays quite nice the whole intermolt period. she has greyish legs and abdomen... all her glory resides in her carapace

the normal morph is a nice spider and all... but it lacks the brilliance of the frosted pink morph. they can have a bit of a pink tint to them... but once you see a really good frosted pink you won't mistake them again

the red morph is like a frosted pink but with red legs instead of grey legs. VERY nice looking spider indeed!

 

[cacoseraph]

It looks nothing like this.
http://giantspiders.com/G_rosea_red.html

that is a pretty crappy red morph, no offense to giantspiders dude



and that male is unlike any other i have ever seen. it's um... not red




let me think. there was a dude on here who i believe went by TheNatural that had a very good looking 1.1 (that's a male and female pair) of red phases. let me see if i can't find his posts

 

[Cyris69]

Yeah, it wasn't so WOW that I would have made a different choice, I had a "pink" one several years ago it had a decient amount of red in it. So I decided to go with a different color plus this one was smaller and didn't have missing hair or something hard on its abdomen

That one(pink/red) looked just like my old rosea so I went with this one.

Just those other links are so crazy cool, this one wasn't like that.

I'm not even ging to bother with it. I will get a picture whenever the next time I'm up there.

I'm also looking for something with good colorationlike a P. metallica, A.A., blue bottle ect.. But one I can handle here and there. Anyone know of species like this?

 

[Cyris69]

@cacoseraph

Cool if you could, I know the numbering system That was my 2-3rd post on the forums. Thanks though, not trying to be a smart ass or anything so I hope you don't take it as such.

 

[cacoseraph]

ok, i am pretty sure somewhere in this thread he has pics of at least a female red phase worthy of the name

the thread is pretty amazing to just look through, even if i am wrong

http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=54776

 

[Cyris69]

Woah, 49 pages!! Going to take some time.

NVM**
Pg 6-7 I think
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1465/grosea312cm27ky.jpg
Pg 10
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4737/grosea2125pi.jpg
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/5818/grosea0104068ph.jpg
Pg 15
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/162/groseamacho280706bgm3.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2870/groseamate6ga5.jpg
Pg 18
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8289/grosea270806buu5.jpg
Pg 35
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/951/grosea230806matingmy1.jpg

Yup those are the only photos
Yeah, that rosea there didn't look like any of those at all, unless they don't until they are full grown/adult

 

[P. Novak]

Woah, 49 pages!! Going to take some time.

Only 15 for me. Go into your account settings and change your post number from 10 per page to 50 per page. It's much more convenient.