Suggestion Readability issue after edits.

[Arachnopotamus Rex]

Because posts can be edited and merged, thread conversations often no longer make any sense. People are giving answers or asking questions or making statements that are later no longer relevant or even understandable after someone had edited their post.

It might be best to remove those features for the sake of being able to make threads remain completely ledgible.

Please consider this suggestion. I understand the urge to shorten threads so posts aren't buried, and the urge to let people correct their mistakes, but this is worse. Whats the point of seeing old posts if its turned into a nonsense conversation later?

Everyone cannot be expected to go back to every thread they have every participated in, and edit them to make contextual sense again whenever someone changes something.

 

[BoyFromLA]

Post edit can only be done so after certain time amount once post created, depends on your account type.

Post merge can only be done so by moderator if I am not mistaken.

 

[Arachnopets]

First off, thank you for your suggestion. We always appreciate hearing feedback from our members.

People are giving answers or asking questions or making statements that are later no longer relevant or even understandable after someone had edited their post.

If you see this, please report it so we can investigate further.

Because posts can be edited and merged, thread conversations often no longer make any sense.

if its turned into a nonsense conversation later?

Quite the opposite, actually. It is done to help better streamline content.


With regards to merging posts (and threads):

As @BoyFromLA mentions, only the mod and admin team can merge posts (or threads) together. This is only done if the posts are made consecutively, by the same user.


With regards to editing posts (and threads):

The time to edit one's post is not unlimited. There are time limits, depending on account type, to edit one's posts. Please see here to see what the time limits are for each account type:

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There is absolutely no purpose to post multiple separate posts, one right after another, all in a row (within minutes of each other and without any other user posting right after). Posting consecutively does nothing more than clutter threads. We understand that after you submit your post that you may have forgotten something else you wanted to say, or maybe forgot to include an image, etc.. It is for these reasons that we allow the ability to edit your own posts (within a limited amount of time), so you can add said content to it.

People are so quick to hit that reply button before thinking through their entire thought process (this isn't your average social media platform ). Therefore, before one hits that "post reply" button, one should consider taking a moment to think if there might be any other content they may want to add. If quoting more than one post is the issue, then you can also utilize the multi quote function.

More information regarding editing posts, and quoting posts, can be seen discussed in these 2 threads:

Question - Quote

I don’t know where to find this information nor how to ask for it. once i made a post, when it comes to edit, i can not add quotes. how would i do that if it is possible, without coding. otherwise, i will learn how to code it.

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Question - How do I edit my posts and replies?

I am so so sorry if this is a stupid question! I want to edit one of my replies so that I don't spam a thread with a million replies but I can't seem to find a way to edit my reply? Is it a time sensitive sort of thing or something I'm just missing? Sorry again, I feel silly but I also don't...

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Hope this helped.

Debby

 

[Arachnopotamus Rex]

First off, thank you for your suggestion. We always appreciate hearing feedback from our members.



If you see this, please report it so we can investigate further.





Quite the opposite, actually. It is done to help better streamline content.


With regards to merging posts (and threads):

As @BoyFromLA mentions, only the mod and admin team can merge posts (or threads) together. This is only done if the posts are made consecutively, by the same user.


With regards to editing posts (and threads):

The time to edit one's post is not unlimited. There are time limits, depending on account type, to edit one's posts. Please see here to see what the time limits are for each account type:

Account Types and Upgrades

Account types and upgrades that are available for purchase.

arachnoboards.com

There is absolutely no purpose to post multiple separate posts, one right after another, all in a row (within minutes of each other and without any other user posting right after). Posting consecutively does nothing more than clutter threads. We understand that after you submit your post that you may have forgotten something else you wanted to say, or maybe forgot to include an image, etc.. It is for these reasons that we allow the ability to edit your own posts (within a limited amount of time), so you can add said content to it.

People are so quick to hit that reply button before thinking through their entire thought process (this isn't your average social media platform ). Therefore, before one hits that "post reply" button, one should consider taking a moment to think if there might be any other content they may want to add. If quoting more than one post is the issue, then you can also utilize the multi quote function.

More information regarding editing posts, and quoting posts, can be seen discussed in these 2 threads:

Question - Quote

I don’t know where to find this information nor how to ask for it. once i made a post, when it comes to edit, i can not add quotes. how would i do that if it is possible, without coding. otherwise, i will learn how to code it.

arachnoboards.com

Question - How do I edit my posts and replies?

I am so so sorry if this is a stupid question! I want to edit one of my replies so that I don't spam a thread with a million replies but I can't seem to find a way to edit my reply? Is it a time sensitive sort of thing or something I'm just missing? Sorry again, I feel silly but I also don't...

arachnoboards.com

Hope this helped.

Debby

Well one example out of the bunch was me mentioning that pseudoscorpions also produce silk (as a reply to someone saying only spiders did). They corrected their statement with an edit, which would have been fine if it was added after my reply and not edited into their original statement, but because of how threads are structured, it now looks like I simply didn't read their entire post properly when responding. This sort of thing happens often enough that it becomes difficult to follow the conversation's lines of thought.

It jumbles around the conversation order, do it enough and it becomes unreadable, like cutting random sentences out of a novel and pasting them on prior pages.

Another example is a user being rude, but then switching 2 words around to undo it.
Other examples are people editing prior posts almost entirely after you've read them and replied, to make it seem like you aren't paying attention to what they've been saying, and then ragging on you for it.

Its a trolling tool, but more importantly, its a way to make threads that would otherwise be useful to third party readers become an unreadable confusing mess.

 

[Arachnopets]

Well one example out of the bunch was me mentioning that pseudoscorpions also produce silk (as a reply to someone saying only spiders did). They corrected their statement with an edit, which would have been fine if it was added after my reply and not edited into their original statement, but because of how threads are structured, it now looks like I simply didn't read their entire post properly when responding. This sort of thing happens often enough that it becomes difficult to follow the conversation's lines of thought.

Did you quote the person in your reply? Even if the original post is edited, it will not change the quote in your post.

It jumbles around the conversation order, do it enough and it becomes unreadable, like cutting random sentences out of a novel and pasting them on prior pages.

I disagree. The order of the conversation does not change at all. The posts all remain in the same order they were made in.

Another example is a user being rude, but then switching 2 words around to undo it.

Maybe they wanted to change it to come across better and not rude? This does not come across as something negative, but something positive. I, personally, don't see anything wrong with this at all.

Other examples are people editing prior posts almost entirely after you've read them and replied, to make it seem like you aren't paying attention to what they've been saying, and then ragging on you for it.

I am finding it very hard to believe this one at all. In all the 25 years that we have been around, I have never seen this once, ever. Please, once again, report anything like this to us and we will investigate further.

Its a trolling tool, but more importantly, its a way to make threads that would otherwise be useful to third party readers become an unreadable confusing mess.

Please provide examples to us by reporting the posts or threads. We can see if they were edited or not.

 

[Arachnopotamus Rex]

Did you quote the person in your reply? Even if the original post is edited, it will not change the quote in your post.

This I was not aware of, and while I do actually appreciate you notifying me, its not really helpful either. Do you really expect me to believe that everyone on this forum has the time to read every post twice to try to make sense of it? Because I certainly don't, and I doubt you do either.

I disagree. The order of the conversation does not change at all. The posts all remain in the same order they were made in.

So if you make a statement, and I correct it, and instead of you correcting yourself after like would happen when speaking, you correct yourself before ive made the correction by editing your first post, thats not changing the conversation's order to you? We can agree to disagree on that one, I can see that very quickly becoming exactly what I described with any type of topic or responses, a confusing mess.

Maybe they wanted to change it to come across better and not rude? This does not come across as something negative, but something positive. I, personally, don't see anything wrong with this at all.

We can agree to disagree on this as well, I consider it childish trolling. like a sibling being a jerk, and when when a parent steps in they say "no i didn't", and yes, you could just read the quoted version, but again who has time to read everything twice?

I am finding it very hard to believe this one at all. In all the 25 years that we have been around, I have never seen this once, ever. Please, once again, report anything like this to us and we will investigate further.

Well you as the admin don't have the time to go back to every post ever made on this site, and read all of them twice, every single day, just to make sure no one is ever doing that, and needing reports is proof of that. So I am finding it hard to believe it never happens, and I don't have the time to un-ignore a bunch of people and re-read everything twice each day to report any of it either, that would be an endless waste of time and i'm better off just using a site that doesn't allow that to even be possible.

I'm gonna limit using this site to responding to existing DMs for now until it improves, and switch to another forum where editing isn't possible.

This place is too much of a chore to micromanage, the format is inconvenient both for reading and posting, and half of the community is rude and obnoxious, replying with snark and argument spurring comments instead of actual answers to posts, and being able to edit them just flares up that nonsense.

I'd rather spend that extra time playing video games, drawing, researching, or literally doing anything else but the mindless back and fourth with adults acting like petty children. If you want reports, I want a paycheck, I'm not moderating for free.

I appreciate you replying to try to resolve this, but its not worth the hassle.

 

[Arachnopets]

I'm gonna limit using this site to responding to existing DMs for now until it improves, and switch to another forum where editing isn't possible.

Sorry that you feel that way. However, that is certainly your choice. Best of luck wherever you end up.

 

[The Snark]

There is absolutely no purpose to post multiple separate posts, one right after another, all in a row (within minutes of each other and without any other user posting right after).

Actually, there is. Books divided into chapters, plays divided into acts.

Contextual differentiation is or can be a very necessary part of virtually all written works in most languages -
be it in reports, novels, authoritative works, instructions, engineering, measuring, mathematics and so on.​

Just as sentences are divided up by paragraphs or other means such as images or type variations. The purpose of many of the textual assists seen at the top of every post.

 

[Arachnopets]

Actually, there is.

Nope!

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[The Snark]

@Arachnopets Apologies extended. I never took into account the present medium rules. Only the different forms of text and how some languages lend to greater comprehension from the tools, while others, staring straight at kedmanee Thai, that can run everything into unbroken text without any grammatical notation for page after page resulting in such confusion they spend inordinate amounts of time and more extensive text just to explain what the intent was of the original article.

 

[AphonopelmaTX]

Well one example out of the bunch was me mentioning that pseudoscorpions also produce silk (as a reply to someone saying only spiders did). They corrected their statement with an edit, which would have been fine if it was added after my reply and not edited into their original statement, but because of how threads are structured, it now looks like I simply didn't read their entire post properly when responding. This sort of thing happens often enough that it becomes difficult to follow the conversation's lines of thought.

Did you quote the person in your reply? Even if the original post is edited, it will not change the quote in your post.

I'm just now seeing this. Here is the post in question about the correction to the pseudoscorpions producing silk.

Back again with another burning question - black widows and brown recluse's

I keep recleeses! They're very chill spiders, they're not teleportation level fast like Heteropoda are, and they are fairly docile. It usually takes quite a bit of annoying to get them to bolt, if I lightly brush one with a paint brush usually the only thing they'll do is lift up the leg that's...

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I never edited my original post to correct anything.