Rattlesnake Tarantula

[RezonantVoid]

Assuie Ts are available! I just grabbed a s. Crassipes a couple weeks ago. Just THIS T isnt available yet. I forgot to check this thread again and many people are correct as I just researched on my own. They're protecting this T (rattlesnake tarantula) and it will be hard to export it. I've been hoping to find it for so long now and people were relating it to the Selenocosmia species but they are not the same.

It's hard to export because it's not legally possible

 

[Jose Paiva]

It's hard to export because it's not leagally possible." Right, youd have to have a USFW import/export license, file out Form 3-177 and pay the $55 fee, and have the package arrive via air freight to one of the handful of US cities that have DESIGNATED PORT OF ENTRY and have it cleared by US Customs and US Fish &Wildlife. That's about it

 

[RezonantVoid]

I've read over and over our fauna export and import lists and Ive never seen anything hinting at us being able to send inverts. If it was really as simple as a $55 fee I'm sure there'd be way more users on here with Aussie T's

 

[Jose Paiva]

I've read over and over our fauna export and import lists and Ive never seen anything hinting at us being able to send inverts. If it was really as simple as a $55 fee I'm sure there'd be way more users on here with Aussie T's

Theres a few I can grab over here in CT. I feel like mainly the rattlesnake T needs to be put in the hobby first for it to be bought elsewhere which can take too long. I was going over how to purchase out of country but good to know itd be different in Australia. Main reason I wouldn't order out of country is because who knows if the T will be alive by the time you grab them. Itd take almost 2 weeks I believe.

 

[RezonantVoid]

Theres a few I can grab over here in CT. I feel like mainly the rattlesnake T needs to be put in the hobby first for it to be bought elsewhere which can take too long. I was going over how to purchase out of country but good to know itd be different in Australia. Main reason I wouldn't order out of country is because who knows if the T will be alive by the time you grab them. Itd take almost 2 weeks I believe.

Yea if you manage to somehow acquire one you then have a rediculous waiting period with the shipping. Unless it's done by air it'd be many weeks at least

 

[Jose Paiva]

Yea if you manage to somehow acquire one you then have a rediculous waiting period with the shipping. Unless it's done by air it'd be many weeks at least

Definitely not the rattlesnake T but even from spidersworld theres a high chance it wont come alive. Hopefully you guys bring them to the hobby soon! One of my dream Ts.

 

[RezonantVoid]

Definitely not the rattlesnake T but even from spidersworld theres a high chance it wont come alive. Hopefully you guys bring them to the hobby soon! One of my dream Ts.

You should see how many of our non T mygalomorphs aren't even established in the hobby yet. Plus we got these diving T's that live underwater in floodplains for like 3 months, surprised nobody has bothered getting them yet. The Ghost T, Diving T, swamp T... The list is neverending. Don't even get me started on the lack of Barychelidae in the hobby here

I would hope that someday soon, captive breeders will have permission to just ship directly overseas

 

[Jose Paiva]

You should see how many of our non T mygalomorphs aren't even established in the hobby yet. Plus we got these diving T's that live underwater in floodplains for like 3 months, surprised nobody has bothered getting them yet. The Ghost T, Diving T, swamp T... The list is neverending. Don't even get me started on the lack of Barychelidae in the hobby here

I would hope that someday soon, captive breeders will have permission to just ship directly overseas

Honestly one of the many reasons I want to live down there. Can you guys have pokies over there? I have too many to count(T's) but I'd give up whatever.

 

[RezonantVoid]

Honestly one of the many reasons I want to live down there. Can you guys have pokies over there? I have too many to count(T's) but I'd give up whatever.

We can't bring ANY invertebrate in other than for zoological purposes in or scientific research. It sucks. We are stuck with native species only. Fortunately, we have the most primitive spiders of any country

 

[Jose Paiva]

We can't bring ANY invertebrate in other than for zoological purposes in or scientific research. It sucks. We are stuck with native species only. Fortunately, we have the most primitive spiders of any country

It's a catch but I'd still be content lol. Cheers mate

 

[RezonantVoid]

It's a catch but I'd still be content lol. Cheers mate

We might not get Chilobrachys or pokies, but we aren't suffering we still get some damn amazing species here

 

[Rhino1]

They are barely available even here in the Aus pet trade, slings go for $300-$500 each.
Also there is a way of exporting spiders and scorps legally but the sheer cost, amount of time involved and paperwork is full on, they need to see several generations captive bred with immaculate records.
If we start now we might be able to send some in 7-10 years

 

[Arachnid Addicted]

Greetings OP. It's already been touched on a few times, but yes this tarantula is Australian and therefore we can already (unfortunately) rule out it's availability anywhere else.
Secondly, it's NOT confirmed to be in Phlogius/Selenocosmia, I speculate it's more closely related to Selenotholus given how readily Selenotholus sp. will hiss and how easy it triggers (even non defensive fang movement -like catching food and intense grooming- from S.Kotzman, will produce a very audible hissing sound).

The sound made by rattlers is alleged to be quite distinct from the average hissing most other T's can make, in both the noise itself and volume they produce it at, but having only seen videos and never encountered one I can't really vouch for that. The videos sound alot different to regular T's IMO.

They can pop up for sale very rarely by some people who catch them in the wild, but as also stated I don't think they're officially classified yet. Often times collectors make a rough guess on what genus the specimen is and just name the species after wherever they found it. Because of this, in sure many Aussies probably have rattlers in their collections that are mislabeled and they have no idea.

It's just one of a large number of documented but unofficially named T's we have here Down Under, I'm sure sooner or later we will get some better info on them

Hi @RezonantVoid
I dont know if I got it all right so I have a few doubts, if you dont mind.
The tarantula in the video, could not even be Selenocosmia, this T is rare even in Aus hobby?
What about S. crassipes, if the one in the video is not this sp, is there an actual S. crassipes? And if so, the actual could be in Europe already?

I think thats it, for now. Lol.

 

[Jose Paiva]

Hi @RezonantVoid
I dont know if I got it all right so I have a few doubts, if you dont mind.
The tarantula in the video, could not even be Selenocosmia, this T is rare even in Aus hobby?
What about S. crassipes, if the one in the video is not this sp, is there an actual S. crassipes? And if so, the actual could be in Europe already?

I think thats it, for now. Lol.

The T in the video is not S. Crassipes. In my best knowledge they dont even have a scientific name yet for the rattlesnake T. But yes, depends where you are you can get a crassipes! I got my sling on palpfriction.

 

[RezonantVoid]

Hi @RezonantVoid
I dont know if I got it all right so I have a few doubts, if you dont mind.
The tarantula in the video, could not even be Selenocosmia, this T is rare even in Aus hobby?
What about S. crassipes, if the one in the video is not this sp, is there an actual S. crassipes? And if so, the actual could be in Europe already?

I think thats it, for now. Lol.

With such a modified stridulation organ it wouldn't surprise me if it's a seperate genus altogether. They are beyond rare even here, so don't get too many ideas about trying to find them outside our borders.
S.Crassipes is an established species and is available outside Australia

 

[Arachnid Addicted]

With such a modified stridulation organ it wouldn't surprise me if it's a seperate genus altogether. They are beyond rare even here, so don't get too many ideas about trying to find them outside our borders.
S.Crassipes is an established species and is available outside Australia

Thanks, man!

 

[Thomas roe]

I've read over and over our fauna export and import lists and Ive never seen anything hinting at us being able to send inverts. If it was really as simple as a $55 fee I'm sure there'd be way more users on here with Aussie T's

I have Aussie Ts because that's all we are allowed here down under hahaha just remember we only have old world's