Question about Tapinauchenius venom

[cichlidjynx]

I’m looking at getting a few Tapinauchenius plumipes or cupreus and I can’t find anything on their venom. It seems like they are very similar to Psalmopoeus but does anyone have a bite report to confirm that claim?

 

[Spoodfood]

There may or may not be bite reports for the species you’re looking for in the bite reports section. They are very closely related genera. If you’re truly concerned about venom potency of new world species in general, you probably should hold off on Psalmos or Tapis.

Basically, if you’re not confident in your ability to deal with fast and potentially defensive spiders without getting tagged, don’t get Tapis.

 

[Smotzer]

I have heard that Tapinauchenius have venom similar to Psalmopoeus if not stronger, but I am not sure why you are worried about the venom potency/toxicity of a new world as they are not medically significant to begin with. Are you worried about it or looking for something that has strong venom?

 

[cichlidjynx]

There may or may not be bite reports for the species you’re looking for in the bite reports section. They are very closely related genera. If you’re truly concerned about venom potency of new world species in general, you probably should hold off on Psalmos or Tapis.

Basically, if you’re not confident in your ability to deal with fast and potentially defensive spiders without getting tagged, don’t get Tapis.

I never said I was worried. I have others way more potent than that. H. macs, S. cals, and P. murinus. There’s just nothing about the species that I can find. Someone even mentioned a possibly revision so maybe that’s why.

I have heard that Tapinauchenius have venom similar to Psalmopoeus if not stronger, but I am not sure why you are worried about the venom potency/toxicity of a new world as they are not medically significant to begin with. Are you worried about it or looking for something that has strong venom?

I’m not worried. I’m more curious what potency it has and what the symptoms are. I have Old Worlds that I know would knock my socks off. I just recently learned about the species and I tie bite reports into part of my education.

 

[viper69]

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[Smotzer]

I’m not worried. I’m more curious what potency it has and what the symptoms are. I have Old Worlds that I know would knock my socks off. I just recently learned about the species and I tie bite reports into part of my education.

Gotcha!! Well venom toxicity is poorly studied especially in new world theraphosidae. You can check the bite reports section but its not a comprehensive place for all information.

 

[NMTs]

I've never been able to find any real bite reports for Tapinauchenius or Pseudoclamoris, other than anecdotal statement about their venom being similar to Psalmopoeus. When bite reports aren't out there, it's generally because a)not enough people keep the species, b)bites are not medically significant, therefore they don't get reported, or c)a bite from the species is extremely uncommon. In this case I would guess it's a combination of all 3.

 

[spideyspinneret78]

As others have said, they are very closely related to Psalmopoeus, so I would venture a guess that their venom potency is also similar. They are also very, very fast spiders that are easily spooked. Their first inclination is always to run away, and I honestly think it would be a challenge to get one to bite a human. Mine would always try to run around frantically trying to escape when startled, then would hunker down and play dead as a last resort. Never saw any defensiveness whatsoever- then again each specimen is different.

 

[Andrea82]

As others have said, they are very closely related to Psalmopoeus, so I would venture a guess that their venom potency is also similar. They are also very, very fast spiders that are easily spooked. Their first inclination is always to run away, and I honestly think it would be a challenge to get one to bite a human. Mine would always try to run around frantically trying to escape when startled, then would hunker down and play dead as a last resort. Never saw any defensiveness whatsoever- then again each specimen is different.

My female T.violaceus (not up to date about possible revisions since I've been out of the hobby for a while) was the opposite. I was always prepared for her to bolt and go zoom but she'd just slowly turn around, put her legs up and give me a nice view of her fangs. All done in almost slow motion. I thought it was hilarious, honestly. She never slapped though. Just held her threatpose for half an hour and then go about her business.

 

[cichlidjynx]

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Already did and couldn’t find anything which is why I posted. If you can find more than I can please link it

I've never been able to find any real bite reports for Tapinauchenius or Pseudoclamoris, other than anecdotal statement about their venom being similar to Psalmopoeus. When bite reports aren't out there, it's generally because a)not enough people keep the species, b)bites are not medically significant, therefore they don't get reported, or c)a bite from the species is extremely uncommon. In this case I would guess it's a combination of all 3.

That’s what I figured. I’ve tried searching through the forums and websites and I haven’t found much.

As others have said, they are very closely related to Psalmopoeus, so I would venture a guess that their venom potency is also similar. They are also very, very fast spiders that are easily spooked. Their first inclination is always to run away, and I honestly think it would be a challenge to get one to bite a human. Mine would always try to run around frantically trying to escape when startled, then would hunker down and play dead as a last resort. Never saw any defensiveness whatsoever- then again each specimen is different.

Ok good to know. I’ve heard a lot about them bolting back to their burrows but if cornered they won’t be afraid to fight so I figured maybe someone may have been bit but I guess not.

My female T.violaceus (not up to date about possible revisions since I've been out of the hobby for a while) was the opposite. I was always prepared for her to bolt and go zoom but she'd just slowly turn around, put her legs up and give me a nice view of her fangs. All done in almost slow motion. I thought it was hilarious, honestly. She never slapped though. Just held her threatpose for half an hour and then go about her business.

Good to know lol sounds like a P. irminia

 

[Pyrelitha]

Good to know lol sounds like a P. irminia

Not like my Irminia, or T violaceus