Problem with small enclosures

Venom1080

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So don't get it from Underground Reptiles.. But if I wanted I could get the Forest Scorpion from them.

So probably either Fear Not Tarantulas, or Jamies. Any other positive reputable dealers anyone would recommend?

Jamie has been dealing with things like Tarantula's since she was young, part of her life story is on her website.

I've never heard of Fear Not Tarantulas until today, so I'm not too familiar with them.. yet.

Also, any other positive reputable places for Scorpions?
im in canada, my knowledge of US dealers is limited. jamies is very reputable. FNT ive never heard of till recently, id check out the prices on both and pick the lower price. also, swiftsinverts, ken the bug guy and PetCenter usa ive heard are pretty good.
 

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Yes, but i was talking about a Mamba (example) on the loose. Completely out of his/her cage, not well secured inside... on the loose in my room...Of course the snake will enter in contact with me, and fast, i assume. Or am i wrong?

I doubt that a King Cobra, or a Mamba, once out and out of control, would crawl scared under the bed or furnitures seeking for a safe refuge.
They will attack. That's how i imagine those animals behavior on such situations.

My friend wouldn't have been able to work with his kings and black mambas in small cages in a small room if they were like you imagine. He had to transfer them to other cages when he cleaned the ones they were in (no dividers). He fed his snakes often, and was regularly opening their cages for that and cleaning. They would have preferred to crawl under his bed if they had the chance, rather than go on the offensive, or else he wouldn't have been able to control them in such tight spaces (one bedroom was very small). Remember, he had to get two snakes in those cages for breeding, then separate them, and later take the eggs away from the females. He did it without incident, but it's not something I'd want to do, and I kept my collection in a 2 car garage, so I had a lot more room to manoeuver.

Another friend of mine had some tiger snakes, and finally was able to get an adult taipan. He unpacked it when I was there. He had a walk-in cage (like a shower stall), opened the wooden crate, unbagged the snake and let it out, all while he was standing in the cage with it. The snake didn't react to him while he stood there. This was not like what I thought would happen, based on what I had heard and read about them being defensive. I don't think a wet bite from an adult taipan is survivable without serum (don't remember which serums he had on hand, although he did live within a half hour's drive from George van Horn, the extractor who had a lot of serums).

Other than venom extraction, the most dangerous time working with elapids is feeding in warm temps.
 

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So don't get it from Underground Reptiles.. But if I wanted I could get the Forest Scorpion from them.

So probably either Fear Not Tarantulas, or Jamies. Any other positive reputable dealers anyone would recommend?

Jamie has been dealing with things like Tarantula's since she was young, part of her life story is on her website.

I've never heard of Fear Not Tarantulas until today, so I'm not too familiar with them.. yet.

Also, any other positive reputable places for Scorpions?

Uploaded June 9th 2016, only a few hours ago. Fear Not Tarantula's.
http://shop.bugsincyberspace.com/Brazilian-Salmon-Pink-bic0015.htm
http://shop.bugsincyberspace.com/Desert-Hairy-Scorpion-bic756.htm

Bugsincyberspace is a very reputable dealer. Their arachnid selection is rather limited, but they do have some scorpions (and the T you're looking for :)) I would order from the if I were you. Their slings are tiny, but L. parahybana is a fast grower.

http://www.swiftinverts.com/
http://www.kenthebugguy.com/

Both of those two are good as well ^^
 
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Okay, so the species that you linked to is a Nhandu chromatus, or N. chromatus. It is best to make reference to their scientific name because the term 'Birdeater' is applied to many species and the common name of Goliath Birdeater is reserved for the Theraphosa genus.
N. chromatus is a bit more of an intermediate species. They are a bit more defensive and their hairs are very irritating. I don't have any of the genus, so I will leave it to others who do to answer specific questions about them.
Males generally live a lot shorter than females do. Most people will opt for the female.
While I would not say they are an ideal first, I certainly don't think they're too far off, pretty much in line with Lasiodoras being suggested, except they get a tad smaller and look worlds better. I've never really had issues with any of my chromatus, and I've raised quite a few and still have 5. I would also opt for a female or get several slings, as they do grow fast (can be bought very cheaply) and are a pleasure to raise from slings as those colors eventually come in. I have found males to be generally more skittish.

They do have fantastic appetites, even when very small.

Bad hairs yes, but the other members of the genus seem to be far more inclined to flick than chromatus.

Yes, hate the "birdeater" term, basically the term just means a South American terrestrial that gets over 6"...there are possibly hundreds of ts that fall into this category, basically making the term so broad that its all but meaningless to people that know about ts.

If you're comfortable, then so is the T. That's what I heard from information I've read online.

I will purchase digital humidity and temp gauges for the enclosure. I also have and use a Accurite Humidity and temp in front of my PC.
That if you're comfortable line doesn't work across the board...it does with most of the better beginner species, but the tropical ones or most OW do not fare as well when kept cool and chromatus is one of those that will prefer a little warmer temps, like 70 minimum, preferably 75-80. Many of the beginners can easily tolerate temps into the low to mid 60's for night temps as adults. But any sling will also need to be kept a little warmer.

There is no reason to know the humidity, concentrate more on the moisture in the substrate than the moisture in the air. In 15 years, living in a place where humidity fluctuates wildly season to season, I've never seen a reason to know the actual humidity number or own a hygrometer (a donation to the store would be a better use of the funds IMO)...even if a pet store hygrometer was giving accurate info...which it won't be doing anyway;)

i wouldnt recommend buying any arachnid from reptile dealers. reptile dealers are slightly better than pet stores when it comes to inverts. try to fins a arachnid dealer. honestly, dont bother with the gauges, 100% not needed and most are crap anyway.
+1

With the plethora of arachnid dealers available, I never understand why people shop for them at reptile stores...reptile stores are for buying reptiles, arachnid stores are for buying arachnids.

I wouldn't go to the fish store to see if they had birds for sale, and fish and birds are about as relatable as tarantulas are to reptiles;) Reptile stores are notorious for 1. selling mis-identified spiders 2. selling unsexed spiders as sexed females 3. dealing primarily in wild caught specimens, often not in the best shape 4. poor shipping practices, as its different to ship a t than a reptile.

Like Vanessa said, just go to the classifieds here, they have a "premium" section, which is the larger dealers, and the section just below that is for smaller dealers, private sellers and breeders. Both sections also have a correlating section for reviews, so you don't make an obvious purchasing mistake and can shop with confidence.
 

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I've had to downsize a few of my enclosures because they were TOO big. I was having trouble getting the smaller ones to eat because they stick to their burrows and never ventured far enough to come across the crickets I put in there. They still have note than enough space but they are much smaller. but now they are automatically aware of any prey items in their enclosure. My albo slings almost never come out of their burrows (when I'm around) so if i kept them in too large of an enclosure I doubt they would ever find any food unless it wandered into their home (Which also would not happen because most of the time I prekill for them.) And even if I put a dead item next to the mouth of their burrow they wouldn't feel as comfortable coming up for it if the enclosure was very large.
Just my novice opinion/experience but its been easier since the change to smaller enclosures
 

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Another species you could look into is Acanthoscurria geniculata. Very easy to keep, looks absolutely stunning, and is a voracious eater. Also gets pretty big and is a fairly fast grower. Also a great display tarantula.
Like others said, look into the the classified section here, lots of great dealers. Don't buy from reptile breeders.
 

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http://shop.bugsincyberspace.com/Brazilian-Salmon-Pink-bic0015.htm
http://shop.bugsincyberspace.com/Desert-Hairy-Scorpion-bic756.htm

Bugsincyberspace is a very reputable dealer. Their arachnid selection is rather limited, but they do have some scorpions (and the T you're looking for :)) I would order from the if I were you. Their slings are tiny, but L. parahybana is a fast grower.

http://www.swiftinverts.com/
http://www.kenthebugguy.com/

Both of those two are good as well ^^
Thanks so much, I'll take a look at the sites you've listed. :)

Another species you could look into is Acanthoscurria geniculata. Very easy to keep, looks absolutely stunning, and is a voracious eater. Also gets pretty big and is a fairly fast grower. Also a great display tarantula.
Like others said, look into the the classified section here, lots of great dealers. Don't buy from reptile breeders.
That's a nice looking one too. Lives for a pretty long time, thanks.
 
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I don't know how helpful this is going to be, but here's what I did today for the Forum.

Vials, Enclosures, Containers, Cases, Tanks (USA)

http://arachnoboards.com/threads/vials-enclosures-containers-cases-tanks-usa.284269/


Thanks for all the help, Great information, and awesome pictures.

@Tenevanica , @Andrea82 , @cold blood , @Poec54 , @VanessaS , @Venom1080 , @Chris LXXIX , @Blackout14 , @TownesVanZandt , @viper69 , @Sceliphron , @BobBarley , @beaker41 , @magicmed , @Trenor , @Abyss , @Ryuti , @vespers , @Haksilence , @Vince Zito , @Phormic28
 
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I don't know how helpful this is going to be, but here's what I did today for the Forum.

Vials, Enclosures, Containers, Cases, Tanks (USA)

http://arachnoboards.com/threads/vials-enclosures-containers-cases-tanks-usa.284269/
Wow, you have been busy! I think that is awesome, maybe someone will sticky it? I'm not going to read through the whole thing because I am in Canada and probably can't get most of the stuff, but I bet that a lot of people will benefit from your hard work.
 

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Wow, you have been busy! I think that is awesome, maybe someone will sticky it? I'm not going to read through the whole thing because I am in Canada and probably can't get most of the stuff, but I bet that a lot of people will benefit from your hard work.
I tried to make a really nice list, and give a little something back. Thanks for all the help on my first post here on ArachnoBoards.

awesome man, this should be a sticky. i regularly see questions on where to buy certain products. just linking this thread is all the answer they need.
Exactly. They really should. lol. I tried to give a little something back, and that's what I came up with. Thanks for the help.
 
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Wow, you went from being uninformed and supposedly trolling to contributing vital information and a really polite guy in a matter of days! Nice job :)
 

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This thread is quite lengthy but a worthwhile read for sure.
Good luck @Roy1982 with your new acquisition(s).
A lot of great info in here now. This is how the hobby should be even though he started a bit on the wrong foot(poor wording) Roy is able to accept his mistakes move on and even add something very cool to the site which is awesome. The day in done learning about these critters is the day I will sell them all is what I say all the time always learning things are always changing that's what makes it fun:)
 

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A lot of great info in here now. This is how the hobby should be even though he started a bit on the wrong foot(poor wording) Roy is able to accept his mistakes move on and even add something very cool to the site which is awesome. The day in done learning about these critters is the day I will sell them all is what I say all the time always learning things are always changing that's what makes it fun:)
Make sure you sell them all to me. I called it first!
 
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