Preys, handling : why such a debate?

TheDarkFinder

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Crunchie said:
I'd love to see any evidence to back this statement up.
In most cases, with animals in captivity, Zoos have found that feeding dead prey to animals makes them lose energy and causes them to fed less. Some snakes do not show any change in behavior. Most cases live food will cause the animal to search and attack new prey. There is no test of this, except for feeding responces of different animals. It is not "for sure" thing but it is seen in alot of animals, reptiles, amphians, and mammals. I know that you can not compare other animals to tarantulas, but the chemicals that are simulated with "the hunt" do remain in the body for awhile and may lead to other behavior. A test of this would be easy to do.
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Mattyb

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TheDarkFinder said:
In most cases, with animals in captivity, Zoos have found that feeding dead prey to animals makes them lose energy and causes them to fed less. Some snakes do not show any change in behavior. Most cases live food will cause the animal to search and attack new prey. There is no test of this, except for feeding responces of different animals. It is not "for sure" thing but it is seen in alot of animals, reptiles, amphians, and mammals. I know that you can not compare other animals to tarantulas, but the chemicals that are simulated with "the hunt" do remain in the body for awhile and may lead to other behavior. A test of this would be easy to do.
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I believe that crunchie was saying that he would like to see some evidence to back up that a tarantula gets bored if there is no fight for food....how the heck do you know if a tarantula is bored...there are no tests that can show if a T is bored.


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Varden

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Mattyb said:
Not if you handle them properly.


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You've never had one take a flying leap? It's not like you can see them getting ready to jump. One minute they're motionless, the next they're airborne.
 

Cirith Ungol

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Lorgakor said:
No worries Cirith! It is Christmas after all!:D
Oh! Good it is then, right? :D ;)

One minute they're motionless, the next they're airborne.
Varden, does it take minutes with yours? :D

Just pullin you leg a little... ;)
 

Mattyb

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Varden said:
You've never had one take a flying leap? It's not like you can see them getting ready to jump. One minute they're motionless, the next they're airborne.

Acually, no


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Crunchie

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TheDarkFinder said:
In most cases, with animals in captivity, Zoos have found that feeding dead prey to animals makes them lose energy and causes them to fed less. Some snakes do not show any change in behavior. Most cases live food will cause the animal to search and attack new prey. There is no test of this, except for feeding responces of different animals. It is not "for sure" thing but it is seen in alot of animals, reptiles, amphians, and mammals. I know that you can not compare other animals to tarantulas, but the chemicals that are simulated with "the hunt" do remain in the body for awhile and may lead to other behavior. A test of this would be easy to do.
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Tarantulas = apples
Snakes = Oranges

There's no comparison, is it not true that many tarantula species will not venture very far from their burrows in the wild (especially the females)?
 

Merfolk

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Cirith : no offense'Dude...:)

I don't think T's get bored the way we are, or else there would be depression outbreak among the pet rocks and other burrowing ermits!!!{D

But, the notion of excitement is still possible. After all, litterature told me that in some occurences T's have their heartbeat accelerating when upset, or on the verge of nailing a prey.

Cold blooded animals lack our ability to store or spend big amounts of energy for a long time. They supposely get tired quicker so I think it would be normal to them to spend their energy parcimoniously, reserving it for important cases, and going 'iddling mode' for the rest of the time. Long lived cold blooded animals are more often very quiet. On the other hand, the species of invertebrates that are always on the move (ants, bees, solifugid, small squids name it) are short lived! But this is another debate!!!
 
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