Pothos won’t grow roots??

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Philodendrons all come from the Americas, mostly South America. So are Monsteras.

Epipremnum, Rhaphidophora, Syngonium all hail from the asian tropics.

Very similar and yet differet.


@The Snark you are gonna love this:
 
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top up the glass & keep it that way, so both lower nodes are in the water, gives you more potential for root growth

you took 3 node cuttings thats good, as @The Snark said, a little too much foliage, not exessively so, it will work but it will take a little longer, i'd probably cut the larger leaves, if you dont like the look and want to use them right after rooting leave it as is
Would you plant them each separately in small pots or clutter them together to make a Super plant ? I guess it doesn’t matter but just wanted to know your opinion. 4 of them .
 

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i would probably put up to 5 plants in one pot

i once made the mistake of putting around 30 cuttings into one pot and i have to say they just didn't grow well, leafes stay smaller as they compete for nutrients and light and soon after i had my first real pest problem. thrips, no thank you.

i only say this because pathos/Epipremnum are tough as nails and still do well like that, normally i now prefer to stick to 1 plant per pot.
 

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i would probably put up to 5 plants in one pot

i once made the mistake of putting around 30 cuttings into one pot and i have to say they just didn't grow well, leafes stay smaller as they compete for nutrients and light and soon after i had my first real pest problem. thrips, no thank you.

i only say this because pathos/Epipremnum are tough as nails and still do well like that, normally i now prefer to stick to 1 plant per pot.
Woah 🤯… 30 in one pot !! That’s a super plant 🪴!! Shame it doesn’t work out :( . I could-try a few per pot or just 1. Maybe a few of both see which works better. I got 2 more clippings in another cup .
 

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Woah 🤯… 30 in one pot !! That’s a super plant 🪴!! Shame it doesn’t work out :( . I could-try a few per pot or just 1. Maybe a few of both see which works better. I got 2 more clippings in another cup .
5 is perfectly fine, 10 may be pushing your luck

anything above i'd not do again, especially since i want to be able to put it in less than ideal light, once they have properly rooted and grown a couple of leaves you can put into a bright spot of the room that gets zero direct sun and it will still grow well.

or circling the room :)
i love climbing plants like these precisely because they can fill the upper parts of the bare walls thst other plants can not.
 

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5 is perfectly fine, 10 may be pushing your luck

anything above i'd not do again, especially since i want to be able to put it in less than ideal light, once they have properly rooted and grown a couple of leaves you can put into a bright spot of the room that gets zero direct sun and it will still grow well.

or circling the room :)
i love climbing plants like these precisely because they can fill the upper parts of the bare walls thst other plants can not.
Good plan maybe I’ll do 4-5 one pot and 1-2 on its own and see how it works out . It’s so cool how pothos is like a vine growing everywhere and they get up to 30+ feet right ? Although I’ve never had one that big .
 

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there are 2 pots i planted about 1 month or two ago, i'd say they are about done adjusting and are each starting to grow the second to third leaf since being potted up.

i threw in one of those spreading ferns @The Snark loves so much :troll:

Epipremnum aureum 'N-Joy'
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Epipremnum aureum 'Golden'
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and my prop box, the P. gigas is almost ready to pot up, and the vine is already shooting out a new growthpoint

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i really dont need any new Epipremnum cuttings right now, i hope it takes its time
 
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Success so far ! The t hasn’t killed the Pothos plant yet.
I suspect the only efficient way to kill them is leave them in the sun in a near desert climate. Give them some water and a little dirt or other moist material and they'll give it a shot.
 

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I suspect the only efficient way to kill them is leave them in the sun in a near desert climate. Give them some water and a little dirt or other moist material and they'll give it a shot.
My sister killed my favorite 2 pothos plants simultaneously, so bad care can kill them. Lucky 🍀 she moved out , so my plants are safe , I might even go buy more colored pothos. I let her have them I don’t think really care. I had so many plants 🪴..
 

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See .. you people all need a big open aquarium where you can just toss in clippings. The humidity, waterflow and fishy poo is like crack to them.
 

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See .. you people all need a big open aquarium where you can just toss in clippings. The humidity, waterflow and fishy poo is like crack to them.
They are really amazing for nitrate removal and nutrient export. A lot of people that keep larger predatory fish use them for such a purpose (Ohio Fish Rescue and Giovandi Suhendi to name a few).
 

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They are really amazing for nitrate removal and nutrient export.
From a die off at the trout farm to consulting with the experts at HSU. Paraphrased from some biology professor, as best I can recall, generalized "Vast areas of the land masses of past and present have their origins written in aquatic feces and their decomposing carcasses. An ongoing geo-botanical evolution with the principle component of botanical life and growth owning much to the bridge, the animals and aquatic plants that tend to collect upon the shorelines, trapping and concentrating the nitrogen."
 

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From a die off at the trout farm to consulting with the experts at HSU. Paraphrased from some biology professor, as best I can recall, generalized "Vast areas of the land masses of past and present have their origins written in aquatic feces and their decomposing carcasses. An ongoing geo-botanical evolution with the principle component of botanical life and growth owning much to the bridge, the animals and aquatic plants that tend to collect upon the shorelines, trapping and concentrating the nitrogen."
Die offs suck , in any species .
 

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Die offs suck , in any species .
For me, it was an intensive semester bio study. I'd been stomping the old growth forests and studying watershed management with professor friend. The decomposition in the detritus in the stands of forest taking and entire year cycle to show visible progress. Meanwhile at the trout farm we had about 1/2 ton of dead trout one morning. Maybe a pile nearly 2 foot tall and about 10 feet across. The recycling operation went into overdrive. In less than 3 days the pile was teeming with maggots. On the fourth day it was gone, just a teeming mass of larvae and a blanket of organic material. In a week, you could barely tell where the pile had been in the field.
That was what the professor at HSU was talking about. What the ooze from primordial on gave and is giving to the coast lines.

(The cause of the die off was nitrogen runaway. A natural phenomenon. I don't have the knowledge to explain it. It happens most often when ecosystems get close to being closed. Feeding on and eating itself, it seems to me. Your enemy in bioactive containments where the mini jungles one morning have a feted reek and everything is turning to goo inside
One principal agent in nitrogen runaway is the balance of aerobic and anaerobic bacteria gets thrown out of whack. The anaerobes, the stinky bacteria, fueled by nitrogen displacing oxygen in the air and organic material go into overdrive. The phenomenon has been well documented from world war 1, with soldiers developing what was called trench foot. That and trench mouth and gangrenous, foul smelling rotting flesh wounds the common condition humans experience. Anaerobes take over. As my bud in the hospital lab called it, the gram negative goon squad.)

@Ultum4Spiderz To avoid nitrogen runaway, every sensible terrarium owner knows the drill. Ventilate, ventilate, ventilate. Keep the aerobic bacteria healthy and stop nitrogen pooling.
 
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For me, it was an intensive semester bio study. I'd been stomping the old growth forests and studying watershed management with professor friend. The decomposition in the detritus in the stands of forest taking and entire year cycle to show visible progress. Meanwhile at the trout farm we had about 1/2 ton of dead trout one morning. Maybe a pile nearly 2 foot tall and about 10 feet across. The recycling operation went into overdrive. In less than 3 days the pile was teeming with maggots. On the fourth day it was gone, just a teeming mass of larvae and a blanket of organic material. In a week, you could barely tell where the pile had been in the field.
That was what the professor at HSU was talking about. What the ooze from primordial on gave and is giving to the coast lines.

(The cause of the die off was nitrogen runaway. A natural phenomenon. I don't have the knowledge to explain it. It happens most often when ecosystems get close to being closed. Feeding on and eating itself, it seems to me. Your enemy in bioactive containments where the mini jungles one morning have a feted reek and everything is turning to goo inside
One principal agent in nitrogen runaway is the balance of aerobic and anaerobic bacteria gets thrown out of whack. The anaerobes, the stinky bacteria, fueled by nitrogen displacing oxygen in the air and organic material go into overdrive. The phenomenon has been well documented from world war 1, with soldiers developing what was called trench foot. That and trench mouth and gangrenous, foul smelling rotting flesh wounds the common condition humans experience. Anaerobes take over. As my bud in the hospital lab called it, the gram negative goon squad.)

@Ultum4Spiderz To avoid nitrogen runaway, every sensible terrarium owner knows the drill. Ventilate, ventilate, ventilate. Keep the aerobic bacteria healthy and stop nitrogen pooling.
It’s a lot harder to do so in a large fish pond right ? Real shame tons of fish die all the time in die offs.
yeah last thing any keeper wants is nasty mold and bacteria growth .
 

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It’s a lot harder to do so in a large fish pond right ?
In the case of the trout farm die off, the entire farm ran on pumped water. They had a power grid cut out for nearly two weeks. No filtration or aeration. They hired me to try to stabilize the system but it was too little too late. Mid summer, low water level in the reservoir, unable to keep the water cold enough to retard bacterial growth. Filtration was plugging up every 8 hours from the abnormal microbe growth. Perfect storm scenario. Came out one morning to have one raceway solid belly up fish.
With that stress removed from the system I was able to balance the water in the second raceway but wasn't able to get the water temp below 50F. Trout stop putting on weight when the water reaches that temp. So we were pouring food into them just to keep them alive but was unable to raise them to marketable weight.
Sold off the fish they had at 1/4th market value/ Owner gave up and went to work on a construction crew.

As for myself, natural progression. I put it in the wind and in a couple of weeks was taking the POST using my academic and experience track record to give me an in at the police academy and became a cop in a few weeks. My standard evolution, transient vagrant -> migrant pot farm worker -> hydrodynamics engineer -> LEO. :meh: > o_O > :geek: > :cool:
 
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