Poll: Do you sterilize your isopod substrate/leaves/wood etc.?

Scp682

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For non natives i just buy a bag of leaves at the reptile expos. For native ones i just grab leaf litter, humus, leaves, sticks, bark whatever and throw in together in an enclosure. It depends on the species the moisture lovers (I've only found ligidium in leaf packs in wetlands) i add more decaying stuff and keep it moister. The dryer forest species (porecellio, armadillidium) get more wood and i keep them damp. I don't sterilize organic material because there's plenty of little mites and native springtails that fungi overgrowth is not an issue. It inevitably grows, so why would I sterilize and kill the cleanup crew? Again i only collect stuff in the vicinity of the isopods so it's all good together. The way I see it it's all nature so the more natural I can keep it the more it will work as intended. This is just my experience but it's worked for me.
I just want to add after reading some of the other posts that I do sift and sort through everything to make sure there's no larger bugs that might eat/out compete with the isopods. I'd also like to add that they're not overly predated upon because they're not appetizing I forget why I had something like they taste bad because they're crustaceans.
 

Arthroverts

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I've ended up with a sock in one of my leaf bags while collecting, definitely a good idea to sift what you collect.

Thanks,

Arthroverts
 

Edan bandoot

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I bake or boil the leaves because I don't like having random bugs flying around in my room
 

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I never ever sterilize anything going into any enclosure...all my wood is drift wood I collect.....ts, animals in general, do not require a sterile environment to thrive. Sterilize and now the first things to colonize have it all to themselves, which can actually set you up for mold annoyances.
 

Chris LXXIX

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Why would you want to live in a place like this 🤣? 0/10 would recommend. I'd love to live in italy why would you give that up
And unfortunately the import export laws here don't make that even remotely practical.
Yeah but you know, in general in Georgia doesn't happens this:



Two 'normal' T's (so not even CITES protected species kept without the proper CITES paper), T's seized by the army, and the risk of a fine of 300.000 € to pay which are at the change, more or less, 357.213,00 $ (!!!).
 

Albireo Wulfbooper

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I never ever sterilize anything going into any enclosure...all my wood is drift wood I collect.....ts, animals in general, do not require a sterile environment to thrive. Sterilize and now the first things to colonize have it all to themselves, which can actually set you up for mold annoyances.
I wish I could find driftwood around here, but if I'm collecting wood outdoors, my options are all rotting logs on the ground, so they're guaranteed to be full of stuff I don't want in my enclosures. I pick leaves right off the trees though, so I don't need to worry about those.
 

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I wish I could find driftwood around here, but if I'm collecting wood outdoors, my options are all rotting logs on the ground, so they're guaranteed to be full of stuff I don't want in my enclosures. I pick leaves right off the trees though, so I don't need to worry about those.
it says ontario on your profile....full of lakes....wait till summer and search the edges or backs of beaches or sandy areas....riverbeds can be good when water is low....wood congregates at riverbends.

you are right that rotting wood isnt good, but its mainly because it tends to hold a lot of moisture.
 

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I never ever sterilize anything going into any enclosure...all my wood is drift wood I collect.....ts, animals in general, do not require a sterile environment to thrive. Sterilize and now the first things to colonize have it all to themselves, which can actually set you up for mold annoyances.
There's a big difference between getting a few bits of wood to decorate a tarantula enclosure and gathering leaf litter to feed animals. Feeding leaf litter without any processing is more like feeding a tarantula wild caught insects. You're just hoping nothing bad happens, but not taking any steps to stop it happening. This isn't like panic baking everything in sight because there were a few mites. It's selectively cleaning food items before adding them.

There's more than one way to clean the leaves, but if you don't, there will be issues somewhere along the line. You can't take back adding woodlice to a millipede enclosure, for example. The only way around it is to start a fresh enclosure and move the millipedes.
 

Albireo Wulfbooper

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it says ontario on your profile....full of lakes....wait till summer and search the edges or backs of beaches or sandy areas....riverbeds can be good when water is low....wood congregates at riverbends.

you are right that rotting wood isnt good, but its mainly because it tends to hold a lot of moisture.
Yes, Ontario. And if I were anywhere other than smack dab in the middle of downtown Toronto, that would be a valid option. Even *if* I could find bits of driftwood on the lakeshore before the hipsters took it for their cafe flower arrangements, I wouldn't trust anything that came out of that part of the lake.

The rotting wood is actually perfect for isopods, which is what this thread is talking about. Moisture isn't an issue, but predators definitely are.

There's a big difference between getting a few bits of wood to decorate a tarantula enclosure and gathering leaf litter to feed animals. Feeding leaf litter without any processing is more like feeding a tarantula wild caught insects. You're just hoping nothing bad happens, but not taking any steps to stop it happening. This isn't like panic baking everything in sight because there were a few mites. It's selectively cleaning food items before adding them.

There's more than one way to clean the leaves, but if you don't, there will be issues somewhere along the line. You can't take back adding woodlice to a millipede enclosure, for example. The only way around it is to start a fresh enclosure and move the millipedes.
Yup. The wood has to be properly processed. If you're picking leaves off the trees like I do, then simply scrubbing the surface with water is fine. I wouldn't pick up leaves off the ground here because of where I live, but if I did, you'd better believe I'd be inspecting that.
 
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Matts inverts

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Yeah but you know, in general in Georgia doesn't happens this:



Two 'normal' T's (so not even CITES protected species kept without the proper CITES paper), T's seized by the army, and the risk of a fine of 300.000 € to pay which are at the change, more or less, 357.213,00 $ (!!!).
This happened in Canada and hundreds were seized because of the city the person was in. They killed his whole collection and only 3 were left. And he got a huge fine and went to jail
 

Scp682

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Yeah but you know, in general in Georgia doesn't happens this:



Two 'normal' T's (so not even CITES protected species kept without the proper CITES paper), T's seized by the army, and the risk of a fine of 300.000 € to pay which are at the change, more or less, 357.213,00 $ (!!!).
Pues mierda,, at least you have edible food there.
 

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If they are field collected then you can’t really tell if they have parasites but they can have external parasites like mites or internal like worms or it could spread bad fungus. I had a fungus issue for the first 7 months I had one of my isopods because I didn’t wash the cork.
Just out of curiosity, do you mean fungus in the enclosure or on the isopods themselves?
 
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