Species Poecilotheria regalis

[Dennis Nedry]

I agree totally with point number one but I disagree with point number 2

I watched a video of a guy with an arboreal T (don't remember the species) but he said that if the tarantula doesn't feel like it's in danger and doesn't think you're food it won't bite and waste precious venom (Given you're not an idiot and make the tarantula feel cornered or hold it for an extended period) but they will either reject walking on your hand or try and move away as quickly as possible

Also by "less likely to get bit" I mean you're more likely to be bitten by roughly grabbing a captive T than you would be if you handled a wild one as gently as possible

 

[Venom1080]

Experience with owning T’s and experience with actually being hands on are totally different things.. in other words if someone says a T can’t be acclimated to hands but they have spent very little time handling them or haven’t at all how are they a source of experienced information when they have not put in the time to know?

Fair point.
It would explain why the ghosts of the T hobby are always active in my collection. And the only spider I did mess with alot is my only ghost.

Then again, that would mean they are much more intelligent then we always thought. To suppress all the instincts they've gathered in the wild and trust a hand. I just don't think it's feasible.

@Dennis Nedry I doubt it, (assuming this is real) a wild T with no time acclimating to a hand would be extremely skittish and likely defensive. Their only interactions would be with food and predators.

 

[Dennis Nedry]

Fair point.
It would explain why the ghosts of the T hobby are always active in my collection. And the only spider I did mess with alot is my only ghost.

Then again, that would mean they are much more intelligent then we always thought. To suppress all the instincts they've gathered in the wild and trust a hand. I just don't think it's feasible.

@Dennis Nedry I doubt it, (assuming this is real) a wild T with no time acclimating to a hand would be extremely skittish and likely defensive. Their only interactions would be with food and predators.

Oh it was skittish alright, it bolted away when he released it. But it made no move to bite or threat pose which is what I'm talking about

 

[Andrea82]

Here is my set up but it isn’t complete yet. I plan on adding more hiding areas and such...

It's quite barren for a Poecilotheria,but with much more foliage and bark better than where she came from. I don't understand why people keep spiders in an enclosure that's often less than suitable. Glad you got it out of there

 

[Thomas Loomis]

Without getting into the discussion of handling Ts or handling OWs, I would like to posit that it is perhaps more responsible to the hobby if you didn't share pictures of you handling your OWs. Your life, your T, your choice-- however...new keepers come here, see this, decide to hold their OW (because yes, new people get OWs unfortunately) and get bit? Or the T gets away and bites someone else?

Monkey see, monkey do. I mean look-- there is a new keeper already asking you how to do what you do.

I have two minds about this. Understand first, that I am Generation X and that our values differ immensely from Millennials. My opinion is that people should be left to their own devices. I don't believe in considering how some uninformed person will interpret my actions. The whole current "my brother's keeper" lowest common denominator mentality just does not appeal to me. I'm definitely in the "the child that says too many marbles doesn't grow up to have children of their own" camp. Natural selection should get to proceed accordingly, even with humans. People should not be protected from themselves.

That being said...

Tarantulas represent a riskier pet option than others. It is by no means the riskiest, but their are real risks. You are dealing with untamed, venomous, non-sentient creature. If you are not a cautious person who learns about the hobby and understands the different species of Tarantulas, at the very least the ones you are keeping, then it might end badly.

I'm not saying you deserve to get bitten by a Pokie but you really shouldn't pick up spiders or anything else if you have no idea what the risks are.

IMHO.

 

[Andrea82]

I have two minds about this. Understand first, that I am Generation X and that our values differ immensely from Millennials. My opinion is that people should be left to their own devices. I don't believe in considering how some uninformed person will interpret my actions. The whole current "my brother's keeper" lowest common denominator mentality just does not appeal to me. I'm definitely in the "the child that says too many marbles doesn't grow up to have children of their own" camp. Natural selection should get to proceed accordingly, even with humans. People should not be protected from themselves.

That being said...

Tarantulas represent a riskier pet option than others. It is by no means the riskiest, but their are real risks. You are dealing with untamed, venomous, non-sentient creature. If you are not a cautious person who learns about the hobby and understands the different species of Tarantulas, at the very least the ones you are keeping, then it might end badly.

I'm not saying you deserve to get bitten by a Pokie but you really shouldn't pick up spiders or anything else if you have no idea what the risks are.

IMHO.

It's not so much the risk to a person that worries people. If someone gets a species, handles it, and gets bitten., or if it escapes and bites another, the worry is the press getting a whiff of said incident and politicians taking an interest and start to ban species or Theraphosidae in general, which already happened in some states of Canada for example. Not so much here in the Netherlands, but US politicians are more hysterical in these kind of matters.
So when people here are asking to not handle a species with potent venom they are essentially trying to protect their rights to keep Theraphosidae. Or so I've gathered from everything i read here.

 

[Thomas Loomis]

It's not so much the risk to a person that worries people. If someone gets a species, handles it, and gets bitten., or if it escapes and bites another, the worry is the press getting a whiff of said incident and politicians taking an interest and start to ban species or Theraphosidae in general, which already happened in some states of Canada for example. Not so much here in the Netherlands, but US politicians are more hysterical in these kind of matters.
So when people here are asking to not handle a species with potent venom they are essentially trying to protect their rights to keep Theraphosidae. Or so I've gathered from everything i read here.

On that issue I agree 100%.

 

[Singapore_Blue1]

Me taking her out... Will do another video tonight.

I have two minds about this. Understand first, that I am Generation X and that our values differ immensely from Millennials. My opinion is that people should be left to their own devices. I don't believe in considering how some uninformed person will interpret my actions. The whole current "my brother's keeper" lowest common denominator mentality just does not appeal to me. I'm definitely in the "the child that says too many marbles doesn't grow up to have children of their own" camp. Natural selection should get to proceed accordingly, even with humans. People should not be protected from themselves.

That being said...

Tarantulas represent a riskier pet option than others. It is by no means the riskiest, but their are real risks. You are dealing with untamed, venomous, non-sentient creature. If you are not a cautious person who learns about the hobby and understands the different species of Tarantulas, at the very least the ones you are keeping, then it might end badly.

I'm not saying you deserve to get bitten by a Pokie but you really shouldn't pick up spiders or anything else if you have no idea what the risks are.

IMHO.

I totally agree if you don’t understand the risks and lack experience then do it anyways then the responsibility is on that person. You can’t protect people from themselves. I also agree that if you had someone get bit by a tarantula with a higher potency and the media ran with it that could create an issue with the hobby as well. Unfortunately you will have irresponsibility no matter what hobby or activity you enjoy

 

[miss moxie]

On that issue I agree 100%.

Which is why I said what I said. I don't care if some jack in Ohio or South Dakota or -whatever- gets bit because they were being irresponsible, I care about:

A. The tarantula first and foremost. Not everyone can control themselves when they're feeling an intense pain, or when they get scared. So flinging the tarantula is entirely plausible. There's a video of RobC flinging a P. metallica male to the floor when he opens up the shipping container and it was resting on the lid instead of inside the container. He got scared of a bite, he reflexively flung. The spider was alright, but it could have easily gotten hurt or died.

B. This hobby.

 

[Singapore_Blue1]

Spread out underside

 

[Singapore_Blue1]

An evening hold... She is very sweet. She still needs to gain some gerth!!!

 

[Thomas Loomis]

Amazing!!!!

 

[Singapore_Blue1]

I have got to gain some weight on her! But seriously she is so chill I can’t wait to see her with a full stomach.. In my experience if they are hungry they are even more flighty! She is like holding an Avic... Yes I know taxonomy changes but very awesome

 

[Andrea82]

I have got to gain some weight on her! But seriously she is so chill I can’t wait to see her with a full stomach.. In my experience if they are hungry they are even more flighty! She is like holding an Avic... Yes I know taxonomy changes but very awesome

Wow, she sure is skinny, but nothing a couple of superworms or big fat dubia can't solve right! How is she doing now?

 

[Storm1028]

I want a pokie

 

[FuzzyFreaks420]

My juvenile Male poecilotheria regalis enjoying his new enclosure and new hide I made him.

MN, USA

Picture of enclosure is from when I first set it up before modifying it a little.

 

[SuleymanC]

that's a very pretty cage and setup but what is it that you added inside the water bowl?

 

[Gloomcookie]

Nice set up! I want a pokie one day

 

[SuleymanC]

Nice set up! I want a pokie one day

how long you have been keeping spiders?

 

[Gloomcookie]

how long you have been keeping spiders?

About 5 years currently and when I was young about 3 years...