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PICTURES: Genus Scolopendra

FUBO

Arachnopeon
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Who can sends galapagoensis and the reference picture? thanks

Who can sends galapagoensis and the reference picture? thanks :) :) :)
 

TCO

Arachnosquire
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Chinese Giant Tigerleg Centipede (Scolopendra sp. "tigerleg")

Chinese Giant Tigerleg Centipedes (Scolopendra sp. "tigerleg") seem to be a little under-represented in this thread...thought I'd share a few pics :clap:

This one is about 15 cm currently.





















 

TCO

Arachnosquire
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S. alternans

Thanks! Here's some pics of S. alternans, about 16 cm:













 

Jürgen

Arachnoknight
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Some Pics

Hello !!

S.g.robusta



S.g.robusta



A.grandidieri



S.subspinipes / Vanuatu



S. subspinipes / Malaysian Jewel



S.alternans on Hand



S.cingulata on Hand



Best Regards
Jürgen
 

krabbelspinne

Arachnobaron
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The species Scolopendra gigantea robusta never existed, it was just an common name but not scientific name.

As we know now, it seems to be Scolopendra galapagoensis...
 

Jürgen

Arachnoknight
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Hello!

It's Scolopendra SPEC gigantea robusta.

I think you are right about that is no scientific name but it is defently not S.galapagoensis.


@ Phil: Thank you =)


Regards
Jürgen
 

krabbelspinne

Arachnobaron
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We have three of them to identify...

and I say: it is definitly Scolopendra galapagoensis

Tell me one reason, one fact, why it is not galapagoensis!!!!
 

Steven

pede-a-holic
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Tell me one reason, one fact, why it is not galapagoensis!!!!
i'll give you 3 :p

- Sternites with noticable paramedian sutures
- Prefemur of 2-20th leg with 4-5 apical spines
- Coxopleural process with 9-12 spines

I think everyone who's been busy with IDying the so called "gigantea robusta"
has to agree that some keys to distinguis galapagoensis from gigantea are open for interpretation, but as far as it gets, galapagoensis could be right, never be toooo sure on anything ;)

PS: the real problem is that taxonomy on South American Scolopendrids is just TOTAL CHAOS and could take for ages to get things right tmo,
latest thing i've picked up is that almost every SouthAmerican pede with a ringfurrow is called gigantea these days,
even by reputated myriapodologist :rolleyes:

sorry for this intersection, people who know what i'm talking about,
will understand ;)

nevertheless,
nice pede-stuff you have there Jurgen :)
 

krabbelspinne

Arachnobaron
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latest thing i've picked up is that almost every SouthAmerican pede with a ringfurrow is called gigantea these days,
even by reputated myriapodologist :rolleyes:

sorry for this intersection, people who know what i'm talking about,
will understand ;)

nevertheless,
nice pede-stuff you have there Jurgen :)
I know what and who you mean... ...this is a shame.....


But we should be sure, that "gigantea robusta" does not exist. So we need an explanation for this species, and there are only three or four possibilities:

Sc. angulata
Sc. galapagoensis
Sc. gigantea subspecies
New species

And as I heard from a good friend who is really excellent on ID scolopendrids :} , this species has the most similarity to Sc. galapagoensis.


So, instead of using unscientific vocabularies, we should call this species

Scolopendra cf. galapagoensis or even only Scolopendra galapagoensis

Don`t you think so? {D :D
 

SAn

Arachnobaron
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If there is no absolut certainty, you can call it Gigantea too as a general term.
It would still be right.
 

peterbourbon

Arachnolord
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You can call it Rhysida longipes if it helps out! :evil: ;P :)

To be honest: I'm not good in introducing new species - and don't have the connections or money to examine 50-100 "gigantea robusta"...so we will never know for sure until a good (!) myriapodologist starts to examine a box full of species.

It is most probably Scolopendra galapagoensis.
Else (i guess) it would be a new species or new subpsecies of gigantea or galapagoensis.

And still remember: There was a pede called "Scolopendra gigantea weyrauchi" that was deleted and re-assigned to "Scolopendra galapagoensis".

Nevertheless this might be a big mistake in past.

Regards
Turgut
 

Draiman

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I'm amazed and shocked to see that this thread has not been made a Sticky.
 

bistrobob85

Arachnoprince
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some keys to distinguis galapagoensis from gigantea are open for interpretation, but as far as it gets, galapagoensis could be right, never be toooo sure on anything ;)
I know of only one paper on ID determination between Sc.gigantea and Sc.galapagoensis... are there many others that i have missed?

phil.
 

peterbourbon

Arachnolord
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Hi,

i only know 2 papers concerning this topic:

- Shelley & Kiser (2000) Scolopendra gigantea with an account of S. galapagoensis.pdf

- Attems, C. Myriapoda 2 - Scolopendromorpha.pdf

Regards
Turgut
 

Tunedbeat

Arachnolord
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This thread needs alittle update, thought you guys might enjoy these.

"Hemiscolopendra marginata"






 
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