Phlogius sp. "aussie goliath"?

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Does anybody here know much about these spiders? All I know is that they're giant Australian Ts. I've been considering getting one since Aussie Ts are rare around here, but I could use some help learning about care.
 

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I have 2 small ones. They're pretty interesting The two I have behave completely differently, one has gone pet hole, the other is always out and about. Very quick and apparently pack a nasty bite, so be kinda careful.
 

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I have 2 small ones. They're pretty interesting The two I have behave completely differently, one has gone pet hole, the other is always out and about. Very quick and apparently pack a nasty bite, so be kinda careful.
How are they kept?
 

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Yes good question. I was wondering this myself for my Phlogius crassipes. Not getting too many hits on my thread yet though.
 

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I've heard keep them like haplo's. I keep mine with plenty of floor space and a pretty deep substrate. Past that I let them do as they please. They do a bunch of webbing. There was a thread somewhere around here where a bunch of us got some all at once and talked about it.
 

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I've heard keep them like haplo's. I keep mine with plenty of floor space and a pretty deep substrate. Past that I let them do as they please. They do a bunch of webbing. There was a thread somewhere around here where a bunch of us got some all at once and talked about it.
I really tried searching before posting here and didn't find anything except the other members of Phlogius. I also just registered on the Australian Tarantula Association's site and will be posting there for info. If you could link me to the thread that'd be great.
 

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Here's a previous thread where we were talking about 'em. I have a P. sp. aussie goliath and a P. crassipes. Both just molted in the last few weeks. They're pretty cool critters and make neat webs and burrows. I see both several times every day, in light or dark. Very skittish though, you touch their enclosure and 'poof,' they're gone


http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=172406
 

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Oh duh I did read that thread....I completely forgot lol!

These guys seem awesome...I might try and get one....think a 20 long would be a good size for an adult?
 

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Tough to say, might want something with more depth to it so that it can burrow. That said, I've read that the members of the Phlogius genus tend to use their burrows less and less as they grow so maybe lots of floor space would be good. My goliath has only one burrow (my crassipes has 3 entrances!) and it sits at the entrance all the time. Not sure how often it gets out and wanders. I'm still unsure what a full grown aussie goliath looks like. The pics I've seen weren't very clear. It must be an impressive sight!
 

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Tough to say, might want something with more depth to it so that it can burrow. That said, I've read that the members of the Phlogius genus tend to use their burrows less and less as they grow so maybe lots of floor space would be good. My goliath has only one burrow (my crassipes has 3 entrances!) and it sits at the entrance all the time. Not sure how often it gets out and wanders. I'm still unsure what a full grown aussie goliath looks like. The pics I've seen weren't very clear. It must be an impressive sight!
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Wow, for a plain brown tarantula, they are so beautiful. And at 13 cm, thats only half grown? :D I'm excited for mine but I'm also sad because I'm pretty sure my goliath is male. I have my suspicions that my crassipes is as well.
 

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jbm,

Thanks for sharing your insight and a few links on this thread. Basically answered my question on the thread I had created. So I'll do it up Haplo style. If that's what the "Australian Tarantula Association" does then that probably ought to be the way for us to do it as well.
 

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No problem man. One thing, I have read that Phlogius like things dry, unlike Selenotypus. When I set mine up, their substrate was quite damp. I was assuming that it would dry out quickly; well, its really holding onto its moisture despite a lot of ventilation. They don't seem to mind though so I think they can probably be kept either way. If they start to become stressed, I'll change things up and update one of these threads, just in case anyone's interested.
 

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In regards to how mine has behaved, with the dry substrate it's been in lately, it's less likely to want to burrow straight down. It instead webs everything from the substrate surface to the ceiling like an OBT. So I am inclined to think housing it like a Haplo is more ideal.
 

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All the Phlogius species can be kept in moist to semi moist burrowing setups..
There are some desert species from Australia to tho which need to be kept more dry..these would be the Selenotypus and Selenotholus
There neat spiders and its great to see more people interested in them!
I should have a couple hundred crassipes ready soon ;]

Also keep an eye out for some Phlogius sp."PQ113" from Philth!
-Chris
 

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The one on the video reminds me of Hysterocrates...

What I do when unsure of care is simply keep the enclosure dry and flood a little patch at one end. The spider will keep where the humidity fits its needs.
 

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Dave Pederson, whom I am not sure whether or not he is an active poster on this forum, but is an admin on the Middle TN T Group on Facebook said:

"the aussie tarantula society recommends babies and juvies be kept much more humid than adults. I keep my adult female dry like an OBT. The slings I have are kept pretty damp, like haplopelma."

Perhaps that's what I will do.
 

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All the Phlogius species can be kept in moist to semi moist burrowing setups..
There are some desert species from Australia to tho which need to be kept more dry..these would be the Selenotypus and Selenotholus
There neat spiders and its great to see more people interested in them!
I should have a couple hundred crassipes ready soon ;]

Also keep an eye out for some Phlogius sp."PQ113" from Philth!
-Chris

Awesome! Congrats on the sac!
 

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Yeah no kidding. Looks exciting. That's a big sac too.
 
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