Pet Deposit

crystalfreakkk

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Hey so at this point I have 20 arachnids and I didn't think that that was information I should share with my property managers. Has anyone or does anyone know of someone who has been fined for having these animals without paying a pet deposit or pet rent for them? It's a $500 deposit for every animal so I didn't really want to pay $10,000 to have animals that take up zero space and cause no damage to the apartment. My property managers are coming for a surprise inspection or something? I just don't want them to kick me out or force me to get rid of my animals.
 

lostbrane

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Check your lease. Does it specify all animals or just certain ones? If your lease says all animals you’ll have to pay the deposit, rehome them, or move to some other apartment complex that is tarantula friendly.

You could try to move them somewhere else and then bring them back, try to camoflauge them (make shelving look like a bookcase or something) or go ahead and talk to management and see if they will work with you, assuming you’ve been a good tenant/ have a decent relationship with the manager.

I don’t agree with the rules that most complexes seemigly have when it comes to this but there is little you can do.

I would also check to see if your lease mentions anything about if the management can come in without your permission. If they can’t well you could utilize that option. I’m sure there is some loophole or something that they can use if it comes to it though.

All that being said this is a decent example of why it is a good idea to read everything in your lease etc. so you know what to expect, depending on whatever action it is you’re going to take.

Best of luck to you.
 
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sschind

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You are pretty much at their mercy but as far as I know they can not pull a "surprise" inspection. Unless its and emergency they must give you notice which it seems they have our you wouldn't know about it. Your best bet might be to just hide everything. They couldn't fine you but they could kick you out or demand you get rid of the animals or pay the deposit. It can be a sticky situation. It depends on the wording of the lease like lostbrane says and the mood/attitude of the person doing the inspecting. One possible course of action would be to keep 1 or 2 out and see how they react but you are running a risk that they would not understand and make their demands anyway.

My landlord knows I have some animals but I doubt he any idea just how many (well over 100 at this point not counting my show stock) unless he has entered my apartment without me knowing.

Best of luck
 
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Nightstalker47

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Five hundred dollars as a pet deposit must pertain to dogs/cats, it would be a ludicrous sum for other caged animals.
 

Chelbelle

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The two rentals we lived in did the 500 dollar deposit per animal as well but as stated above it was only for cats/dogs. They didn't worry about caged animals because of the minimal risk of damage to their property. I doubt you'll have an issue as long as you're not filling the entire space with them.
 

crystalfreakkk

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I think it would be dumb to pay it since there is no risk of them causing damage. I have read the entire lease, it is very vague of course as it doesn’t pertain directly to my apartment but it’s a generic lease agreement. I will hide them while the property managers come. I’ve only lived there a month and apparently they check in after the first month to make sure all initial reported repairs have been done. We have an older cat so we recieved permission to lock our bedroom door to keep her “kenneled” since all pets must be kenneled. So we shall see. I think I will have a friend call and inquire about the pet agreement as a potential renter to see what they say about it.

I was just mostly interested to see if anyone has ever gotten in trouble for their spiders.
 
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Ultum4Spiderz

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Hey so at this point I have 20 arachnids and I didn't think that that was information I should share with my property managers. Has anyone or does anyone know of someone who has been fined for having these animals without paying a pet deposit or pet rent for them? It's a $500 deposit for every animal so I didn't really want to pay $10,000 to have animals that take up zero space and cause no damage to the apartment. My property managers are coming for a surprise inspection or something? I just don't want them to kick me out or force me to get rid of my animals.
Build a cabinet and hide them , or a false mirror I dono . I wouldn’t pay extra for pets what a scam . The pets that hurt poperty are cats & dogs .

The two rentals we lived in did the 500 dollar deposit per animal as well but as stated above it was only for cats/dogs. They didn't worry about caged animals because of the minimal risk of damage to their property. I doubt you'll have an issue as long as you're not filling the entire space with them.
What do you get desposit back if no damage occurs? Renting anymore feels like your a feudal serfdom . You just don’t work for the landlord, wich also sounds like feudalism haha maybe old terminology?

I doubt they would care about tanked animals , Ts are harmless to property.
 
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cold blood

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I had to pay double security deposit for my dog...but I was told that they didn't care about aquarium type pets.

As mentioned, most states have rental laws that prohibit a "surprise inspection" and require at least 24 hours notice before entering the property unless there is a serious emergency and you cannot be reached. Not sure how well your particular state protects tenants though...WI does have some of the most restrictive laws for landlords....tenants have a lot of legal protection here.
 

crystalfreakkk

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Build a cabinet and hide them , or a false mirror I dono . I wouldn’t pay extra for pets what a scam . The pets that hurt poperty are cats & dogs .
We have cats and dogs as well so when we move out if they decide that there isn’t $1000 worth of damage we’ll get the money back. The cabinet is a good idea but I’m really stuck on keeping them as display animals and to have easy access to zone out observing them.

Not sure how well your particular state protects tenants though...WI does have some of the most restrictive laws for landlords....tenants have a lot of legal protection here.
This is Idaho. There are no laws.
 

Ungoliant

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I think it would be dumb to pay it since there is no risk of them causing damage. I have read the entire lease, it is very vague of course as it doesn’t pertain directly to my apartment but it’s a generic lease agreement.
Most landlords who request a pet deposit are generally concerned about dogs or cats, which can cause damage, soil carpets, etc.

What kind of relationship do you have with the landlord and/or property managers? Do they come across as reasonable? If the lease is ambiguous, I would consider asking the landlord for written permission, explaining that these are small display pets (like fish) that are always kept in their cages, so they won't cause damage or make the apartment smell bad.

The downside of that approach is that if the landlord refuses, you've now put him on notice that you have pets.
 

Jayk

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My landlord made me pay a pet deposit, however he initially wanted £300 for the pets, but after clarifying to him that they are kept in secure glass enclosures and that they are all new worlds (minor lie :D ) he went away did research on new world t's and let me keep them for £100 deposit just incase of escape etc.

Usually the pet clause is your typical pets (cats & dogs) just speak to the landlord provided that they have been reasonable so far and that you've been a good tenant. hopefully it all works out.
 

Minty

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Just hide them in the boot of your car for a day.
 

viper69

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I see these posts a lot over the years. I would never bring up these exotic animals ever. There are exceptions where landlord was fine w/them, but you typically don't know this information a priori. If one brings them up, it's stupid to do so because the person one is speaking with is typically ignorant or willfully stupid in this area of nature.

This article is an excellent reason why you shouldn't mention Ts

http://arachnoboards.com/threads/disturbing-article-i-found.310958/
 
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InvertAddiction

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I've never heard of a pet deposit being more than $300 per pet. Mine was $200 per pet and I have 1 kitty who had to be paid for. As for the inverts, I've seen some leases where arachnids were on the no go list, meaning they were not allowed on the premises, which is funny considering there's always a house spider in a corner somewhere lol. Most landlords don't care if it's a bird, reptile, or invert though. As said before, mainly it's for dogs/cats who can destroy rental property. Having a friend call in and ask, is a nice idea, although, when I got my apartment 2 years ago, I made the choice to be upfront and ask when I looked at the apartment, if inverts were alright (everything except the usual 'mean breed' of dogs, and snakes (found out someone who rented from them before had pythons and they would release them in the drains when they didn't want to care for them anymore, which caused a lot of money for repairs to get the snake(s)out and replace piping and such).
 

viper69

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I've never heard of a pet deposit being more than $300 per pet.
Normally I'd say the same thing- but my friend was looking at some places, she found a few that were like that. The deposit is 500$ per pet.

I saw a place that said no to ferrets specifically listed. I don't own them.

I've run into tons that do not allow herps across 4 major geographical regions of the USA.

Only reason cats/dogs are mentioned most is they are most common.


What's really crazy is the places will let you have a 100 gallon fish tank, not concerned about the potential water damage because it will be on the renter's insurance of occupant, but a 2 ft snake--oh no, that's too much!! :banghead::rolleyes:
 

sschind

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We have cats and dogs as well so when we move out if they decide that there isn’t $1000 worth of damage we’ll get the money back. The cabinet is a good idea but I’m really stuck on keeping them as display animals and to have easy access to zone out observing them.


This is Idaho. There are no laws.
The downside is having to live in Idaho:D:D:D:D:D:D Just kidding, I hear Idaho is a great place to be from.:D:D:D:D
 
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