Personal Opinion on Avicularia Diversipes?

[Ilich]

I'm new to the hobby more-or-less, as-in, very new. As-in, I don't even own a tarantula but really want one. I mostly am just focused on gather information right now and learning about these extremely beautiful creatures. I was curious what everyone thought about getting an Avicularia Diversipes for my first T? I understand they're a very docile and calm species from what I've read and they're very stunning from the images I've seen. Does anyone here own one and if-so, can you describe your personal experience with them?

 

[KezyGLA]

Its Ybyrapora diversipes and I wouldnt recommend for first T.

They are not docile. IME

 

[Ilich]

Its Ybyrapora diversipes and I wouldnt recommend for first T.

They are not docile. IME

Why have I read that it's Avicularia? Also, thanks for letting me know, I've seen some people handling them and they seem to be fine. Maybe they got the species wrong or?

 

[nicodimus22]

They were recently reorganized, taxonomy-wise. Same story with the Avicularia versicolor, which is now Caribena versicolor.

 

[Ilich]

They were recently reorganized, taxonomy-wise. Same story with the Avicularia versicolor, which is now Caribena versicolor.

Ah, Does that happen frequently with tarantulas?

 

[viper69]

I understand they're a very docile and calm species

Neither of those words are true for this species. Find something else.

Ah, Does that happen frequently with tarantulas?

Define frequently?

 

[Ilich]

Neither of those words are true for this species. Find something else.

Okay, My apologies, it's a bit of misinformation from what someone else said as well. As well as them being reclassified to Ybyrapora. I'll keep on my search.

Define frequently?

Well, I suppose based on how you would define frequently. In your opinion, do you think it happens frequently?

 

[viper69]

I've seen some people handling them and they seem to be fine

Tarantula's are not pets to be handled. You need to treat them like fish. If you are looking for an exotic animal to care for AND to handle, do yourself a favor and get a kitten or a snake.

Just because you see people doing something, doesn't mean it's correct or safe. It's particularly not safe for the tarantulas.

I STRONGLY suggest you do a lot of reading here at this forum. There are PLENTY of threads for "Help my T escaped"...why? Because they were busy handling the animal.

Remember, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do something.

Well, I suppose based on how you would define frequently. In your opinion, do you think it happens frequently?

No

 

[Ilich]

Tarantula's are not pets to be handled. You need to treat them like fish. If you are looking for an exotic animal to care for AND to handle, do yourself a favor and get a kitten or a snake.

Just because you see people doing something, doesn't mean it's correct or safe. It's particularly not safe for the tarantulas.

I STRONGLY suggest you do a lot of reading here at this forum. There are PLENTY of threads for "Help my T escaped"...why? Because they were busy handling the animal.

From what I've read this opinion varies from person-to-person. I never planned on handling anything and like I said I'm not purchasing anything or doing anything until I feel comfortable with the knowledge I've obtained on the subject matter. I'm not ignorant and I'm not stupid, I'm not assuming anything, that's why I am here.

 

[KezyGLA]

If you like the look of Y. diversipes then you might want to look at Caribena versicolor, Avicularia avicularia, Avicularia sp. peru purple etc. Most Avicularia sp. are pretty calm (generally speaking), but Ybyrapora are not.

 

[cold blood]

I was curious what everyone thought about getting an Avicularia Diversipes for my first T?

They have been re-classified and are now in the genus Ybyrapora

I understand they're a very docile and calm species

Not exactly...they are one of the more high strung and defensive of the avic related species.

they're very stunning from the images I've seen.

FAR more stunning as slings and juvies....still nice looking as adult, but nothing like the electric colors they sport when young.

I would go in a different direction for your first...terrestrials are generally the best way to start.

If you really want an arboreal, look for an adult female A. avic....they are relatively inexpensive and more forgiving than slings....still a very cool spider though.

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• cold blood
• Apr 8, 2017

A. avic

C. versicolor would be another possibility.

 

[Ilich]

If you like the look of Y. diversipes then you might want to look at Caribena versicolor, Avicularia avicularia, Avicularia sp. peru purple etc. Most Avicularia sp. are pretty calm (generally speaking), but Ybyrapora are not.

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll look into them and see what catches my fancy.

 

[viper69]

From what I've read this opinion varies from person-to-person. I never planned on handling anything and like I said I'm not purchasing anything or doing anything until I feel comfortable with the knowledge I've obtained on the subject matter. I'm not ignorant and I'm not stupid, I'm not assuming anything, that's why I am here.

Opinion-- interesting. Well take a REAL WORLD example. Person is doing husbandry and decides to hold their relatively docile Avic. However, their Avic has other ideas, and decides to jump off the person. It falls to the floor and dies/gets injured.

Is it your opinion the above was a smart thing to do?

As far as being ignorant. We are all ignorant of A LOT. I'm ignorant about quite a few species among other things. There's nothing wrong with being ignorant, but will full stupidity, that's a different issue. NOTE- I'm not suggesting you are the latter, only the former.

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll look into them and see what catches my fancy.

Also, a more laid Avic is A. sp. metallica. Less skittish than verisocolor.

Many people don't recommend Avics as first time Ts either, myself included.

 

[Ilich]

They have been re-classified and are now in the genus Ybyrapora

Not exactly...they are one of the more high strung and defensive of the avic related species.
FAR more stunning as slings and juvies....still nice looking as adult, but nothing like the electric colors they sport when young.

I would go in a different direction for your first...terrestrials are generally the best way to start. If you really want an arboreal, look for an adult female A. avic....they are relatively inexpensive and more forgiving than slings....still a very cool spider though.

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• cold blood
• Apr 8, 2017

A. avic

C. versicolor would be another possibility.

This is what I was told on the other forum I posted (accidentally posted in two places and thought it was the wrong forum, idk). I'm honestly not too picky, I'm interested in all of them, I just thought Ybyrapora diversipes was extremely stunning, but it can wait until I am much more experienced. Probably a few years into the future. Thanks for the recommendations, I'll be sure to look into those. Someone else also recommended the c. versicolor and a. avicularia

 

[viper69]

Its Ybyrapora diversipes and I wouldnt recommend for first T.

They are not docile. IME

They will take your head off, just like a shark!

 

[Ilich]

Also, a more laid Avic is A. sp. metallica. Less skittish than verisocolor.

Many people don't recommend Avics as first time Ts either, myself included.

Would you say it's because most people are afraid of them or?

Opinion-- interesting. Well take a REAL WORLD example. Person is doing husbandry and decides to hold their relatively docile Avic. However, their Avic has other ideas, and decides to jump off the person. It falls to the floor and dies/gets injured.

Is it your opinion the above was a smart thing to do?

As far as being ignorant. We are all ignorant of A LOT. I'm ignorant about quite a few species among other things. There's nothing wrong with being ignorant, but will full stupidity, that's a different issue. NOTE- I'm not suggesting you are the latter, only the former.

While I agree with you fully, It would break my heart to inflict harm upon any of these creatures, I was just more-or-less repeating what I've heard. Like I said, still very new, and yes we are all ignorant. However, I meant that in the sense of I am seeking to not be ignorant, or that I am not actively choosing to be ignorant and that I am not totally blind to what's going on. You know what I mean? I still thank you so much for your time, you've been very helpful and informative.

 

[viper69]

Would you say it's because most people are afraid of them or?

No. Post #24 http://arachnoboards.com/threads/what-tarantula-should-i-get-at-bts.307455/page-2#post-2792418

 

[Ilich]

They will take your head off, just like a shark!

Did you know sharks attack humans, typically surfers, because they think they're seals?

No. Post #24 http://arachnoboards.com/threads/what-tarantula-should-i-get-at-bts.307455/page-2#post-2792418

Ah, okay, I understand. They require a bit more care, and skill then?

 

[viper69]

While I agree with you fully, It would break my heart to inflict harm upon any of these creatures, I was just more-or-less repeating what I've heard. Like I said, still very new, and yes we are all ignorant. However, I meant that in the sense of I am seeking to not be ignorant, or that I am not actively choosing to be ignorant and that I am not totally blind to what's going on. You know what I mean? I still thank you so much for your time, you've been very helpful and informative.

You are ahead of most people that come here. Many people don't do the research, buy it, and come here with problems, or a dead/dying T. With all their issues preventable had they taken the time to investigate.

Also, generally, don't trust your local pet store to know anything, and don't read care sheets. Lastly, YouTube is a great place to see species, but it's a poor place to see proper husbandry/care when one is new because one doesn't know what is right or wrong. You see 10 people feeding their Ts directly with tongs/forceps, and you think that is correct, when it isn't. That was just an example.

Did you know sharks attack humans, typically surfers, because they think they're seals?

I have heard that and seen such research. I've been learning about sharks since the 70s.

However, if my memory serves, that thought is not completely born out by evidence, ie, it's a hypothesis. Also, some of this behavior is species specific.

It could be true, but I don't know myself. What I do know is that many shark attacks, particularly those by Great Whites, are not attacks at all. They are merely the shark investigating the object of their attention. It's called mouthing, taking an object inside its mouth and checking it out. Great Whites are extremely curious among sharks in general.

 

[Ilich]

You are ahead of most people that come here. Many people don't do the research, buy it, and come here with problems, or a dead/dying T. With all their issues preventable had they taken the time to investigate.

Also, generally, don't trust your local pet store to know anything, and don't read care sheets. Lastly, YouTube is a great place to see species, but it's a poor place to see proper husbandry/care when one is new because one doesn't know what is right or wrong. You see 10 people feeding their Ts directly with tongs/forceps, and you think that is correct, when it isn't. That was just an example.

Well, I like to assess a situation before involving myself with it. I have a respect for Tarantulas and spiders in general. I can relate to them in the sense that they're terribly misunderstood and often abused by people when they don't deserve to be. People fear what they don't understand.

I figured as much, I wasn't planning to buy from a local pet store, I was thinking it'd be better to maybe look online somewhere for to purchase one? What do you think? Ah, see, that's something I didn't know, always learning.

I have heard that and seen such research. I've been learning about sharks since the 70s

I don't know too much about them, but it's just something I cam across a while back. It makes sense, their eye-site isn't that great as I recall and humans aren't apart of their natural habitat. Not sure if anyone has ever actually been eaten alive by a shark though.