People Kill Record Mako for no Reason

[freedumbdclxvi]

Makos may not be a protected species, but both species of mako are listed as vulnerable.

 

[Tarantula155]

And Marc, seriously? "We have more than enough food at the grocery store?" Yeah...and enough growth hormones, antibiotics, and ingredients you probably cannot even pronounce, let alone be able to explain what they are actually ARE. When the grocery stores start giving it all away for free or when YOU are willing to pay for MY food, count me in. Until then, I will happily relish the flesh of deer, wild boars, fish, alligator, etc. that either I or people I know have killed. A bullet is cheaper than the cheapest pound of hamburger. I'm guessing you were raised in an urban environment, and most of the folks commenting here probably were. You don't raise your own food, you never HAD to hunt for your own food, you never depended on a freezer full of venison to actually sustain you and your family, and you think that meat just automatically comes prepackaged in those neat little styrofoam and plastic wrap containers because after all, that's how it looks in the grocery stores, right? I'm sure that if Wayne Pacelle or Ingrid Newkirk were reading some of the posts here, they'd be gleefully cheering you on while plotting to take away YOUR animals. After all, they'd rather see an animal dead than living in a world full of us horrible humans.

pitbulllady

I'm surprised you have the audacity to assume something like that. You don't know me whatsoever.

Ever heard of a vegetarian?
I buy only organic foods. I eat mostly fruits, vegetables, nuts, beans, and fish.

I understand where you're coming from. But, you do know there is such a thing called ''organic meat''?

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Makos may not be a protected species, but both species of mako are listed as vulnerable.

Yep, I don't think many people know that.

 

[cerialkiller]

Agreed.

The people that kill these innocent sharks are just poorly developed humanoids.

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Hmmm, I don't like that. We have more than enough food at the grocery store.

Where do you think the grocery store gets our food from ??
I for one eat what I kill and I've killed a few animals from sharks to squirrels and I know first hand they are very tasty

 

[Tarantula155]

Where do you think the grocery store gets our food from ??
I for one eat what I kill and I've killed a few animals from sharks to squirrels and I know first hand they are very tasty

Depends on the grocery store.

I do not eat red meat, in fact I don't eat fish very often either. I get plenty of protein from nuts and beans.

 

[cerialkiller]

Depends on the grocery store.

I do not eat red meat, in fact I don't eat fish very often either. I get plenty of protein from nuts and beans.

I can and do respect your vegetarian lifestyle , my question is why do some (not all) vegetarians bash meat eaters?

 

[Tarantula155]

I can and do respect your vegetarian lifestyle , my question is why do some (not all) vegetarians bash meat eaters?

Most likely because they dislike what you ''meat eaters'' are contributing to. Sure, maybe our ancestors ate meat. But today, our bodies do not need meat to survive. It's been proven. Look at our teeth, intestines and etc. They're different from a carnivore. Take a look in at factory farming, a big problem now.

I'm not stopping you. Eat what you want, it's your life. But if we stopped eating meat, imagine what the world would be like?

 

[freedumbdclxvi]

But if we stopped eating meat, imagine what the world would be like?

Practically the same as now, except people wouldn't eat meat.

 

[Anonymity82]

Most likely because they dislike what you ''meat eaters'' are contributing to. Sure, maybe our ancestors ate meat. But today, our bodies do not need meat to survive. It's been proven. Look at our teeth, intestines and etc. They're different from a carnivore. Take a look in at factory farming, a big problem now.

I'm not stopping you. Eat what you want, it's your life. But if we stopped eating meat, imagine what the world would be like?

There are nutrients we get from meat that you cannot get from anywhere else (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ild-neglect-baby-died-vitamin-deficiency.htmlhttp://www.mnn.com/food/healthy-eating/questions/animal-or-vegetable-the-truth-about-protein ). I don't eat red meat or pork anymore although it is tempting. Mainly because I've decided I would not be able to kill the animal unless I was starving (actually starving) ,then even you're game . Although I'd feel bad killing fowl and poultry I know I could do it. I try to get free range, organic eggs and chicken/turkey meat when I can (stuff can be expensive!). I don't drink milk and avoid dairy for various reasons, but none are related to illness. I do not hate people who do eat and consume this stuff. What gets to me is that people will eat this stuff but refuse to watch a video on how this stuff is made because they feel bad for the animals. How can you consume it yet you can't even WATCH it let alone perform it?

Never giving up fish!

 

[Tarantula155]

Practically the same as now, except people wouldn't eat meat.

Huh. I don't know about that. Factory farming(meat) is causing many problems for the environment, communities, the health of millions, bacteria outbreaks, and the suffering/cruelty of defenseless animals. If those factories shut down, the world would be much better in my opinion.

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There are nutrients we get from meat that you cannot get from anywhere else (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ild-neglect-baby-died-vitamin-deficiency.html). I don't eat red meat or pork anymore although it is tempting. Mainly because I've decided I would not be able to kill the animal unless I was starving (actually starving) ,then even you're game . Although I'd feel bad killing fowl and poultry I know I could do it. I try to get free range, organic eggs and chicken/turkey meat when I can (stuff can be expensive!). I don't drink milk and avoid dairy for various reasons, but none are related to illness. I do not hate people who do eat and consume this stuff. What gets to me is that people will eat this stuff but refuse to watch a video on how this stuff is made because they feel bad for the animals. How can you consume it yet you can't even WATCH it let alone perform it?

Never giving up fish!

Missing some nutrients? There are vegetarian and vegan vitamins(powdered) that can get what you need.
Some of the longest living people are vegans and apparently they are "missing nutrients". Those nutrients are not necessary to live. In fact, from the studies non meat eaters(vegetarians and vegans) are healthier than meat eaters.

 

[freedumbdclxvi]

Eh, with everything else that happens to the environment, I doubt it would make a huge difference in the end.

 

[Anonymity82]

Huh. I don't know about that. Factory farming(meat) is causing many problems for the environment, communities, the health of millions, bacteria outbreaks, and the suffering/cruelty of defenseless animals. If those factories shut down, the world would be much better in my opinion.

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Missing some nutrients? There are vegetarian and vegan vitamins(powdered) that can get what you need.
Some of the longest living people are vegans and apparently they are "missing nutrients". Those nutrients are not necessary to live. In fact, from the studies non meat eaters(vegetarians and vegans) are healthier than meat eaters.

Show me some links. http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/05/09/105-year-old-woman-says-bacon-keeps-her-alive/

http://www.mnn.com/food/healthy-eating/questions/animal-or-vegetable-the-truth-about-protein

I know they're not great.

My brother in law is super health conscience and a pretty smart guy, scientist for the EPA. He was a vegan for awhile but he found some information that changed his mind. He doesn't do red meat but chicken and salmon occasionally too now. I don't remember what exactly he read but I'll try to ask him next time and remember to post it here.

 

[Tarantula155]

Show me some links. http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/05/09/105-year-old-woman-says-bacon-keeps-her-alive/

Seen that, genetics.


My links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkRN3ddd0P8

http://thefruitdoctor.blogspot.ca/2012/07/annette-larkins-ageless-raw-vegan-70.html

This guy is 111 years old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qho-mbcmV1w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX58PyQwrcI

Many more, if you want.

 

[Anonymity82]

Geesh, but the PETA-Heads "We Hate All Humans and Humans Should Be Eradicated Except for US of Course" folks are out in force. Makos are not a protected species, and game fishing is monitored as is LEGAL hunting of big game land animals. This is pure AR mentality, that humans are a blight upon the earth and should be eliminated, that the life of an ant is worth more than the life of a human-"a rat is a dog is a pig is a boy". Now WHERE have we heard that?
California actually carefully monitors shark populations in its waters, and much of the research, leading to what we know about sharks, comes from animals like this, caught by game fishermen. Shark populations in So.Cal waters have actually been on the increase, due to the increase in sea lion populations, which are a major food of both Mako and Great White sharks. Trust me-if the Mako population in those waters was not stable, these fishermen would be dealing with CA's Fish and Game Dept in ways they never wanted to imagine!
And you know the old saying: Change begins with YOU. YOU set the example for what you want to change, so when you go saying things like "all humans should be eradicated", unless you're willing to take that first step to set that example, better be careful what you wish for. I have yet to see an AR activist start by eliminating themselves, though.

And Marc, seriously? "We have more than enough food at the grocery store?" Yeah...and enough growth hormones, antibiotics, and ingredients you probably cannot even pronounce, let alone be able to explain what they are actually ARE. When the grocery stores start giving it all away for free or when YOU are willing to pay for MY food, count me in. Until then, I will happily relish the flesh of deer, wild boars, fish, alligator, etc. that either I or people I know have killed. A bullet is cheaper than the cheapest pound of hamburger. I'm guessing you were raised in an urban environment, and most of the folks commenting here probably were. You don't raise your own food, you never HAD to hunt for your own food, you never depended on a freezer full of venison to actually sustain you and your family, and you think that meat just automatically comes prepackaged in those neat little styrofoam and plastic wrap containers because after all, that's how it looks in the grocery stores, right? I'm sure that if Wayne Pacelle or Ingrid Newkirk were reading some of the posts here, they'd be gleefully cheering you on while plotting to take away YOUR animals. After all, they'd rather see an animal dead than living in a world full of us horrible humans.

pitbulllady

I think he meant non meat food.

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Seen that, genetics.


My links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkRN3ddd0P8

http://thefruitdoctor.blogspot.ca/2012/07/annette-larkins-ageless-raw-vegan-70.html

This guy is 111 years old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qho-mbcmV1w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX58PyQwrcI

Many more, if you want.

Who's to say those aren't genetics either?

 

[Tarantula155]

Great one, this guy's genetics are not the greatest. He even said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfYphKNWT9k

 

[Anonymity82]

I, for the most part, agree with you. People need to eat less meat. Again, I no longer eat pork or red meat anymore. Never giving up fish! Idc at all! But I'm not going to be one of these Crossfit guys chowing down the bacon either.

Red meat is bad. Pork is often pretty terrible too with all the saturated fats. I try to only eat chicken breast with no skin or turkey breast. I know vegetarians and many of them aren't healthy. They eat terribly, it is possible to do this without meat. I'm not saying you're one of them, just pointing out my experience with vegetarianism.

I cut out pork and red meat for two reasons, I can't even watch videos of their slaughter let alone kill it myself (if you can't kill it, you shouldn't be eating it) and I want to eat healthier.

I have to ask her brother what and where he read the information he casually brought up at dinner when we inquired to why he was eating chicken again after not eating for so long. Being that he's a scientist for the EPA (I know this doesn't mean too much depending on the person) and he's crazy health conscience I trust that he's done his homework. If I remember I'll let you know what info he tells me after I research it for myself. I just don't have the time right now to try and find it on my own. I need something more than youtube videos and .coms to become a believer, I know I didn't provide anything better than that either

 

[Tarantula155]

I, for the most part, agree with you. People need to eat less meat. Again, I no longer eat pork or red meat anymore. Never giving up fish! Idc at all! But I'm not going to be one of these Crossfit guys chowing down the bacon either.

I have to ask her brother what and where he read the information he casually brought up at dinner when we inquired to why he was eating chicken again after not eating for so long. Being that he's a scientist for the EPA (I know this doesn't mean too much depending on the person) I trust that he's done his homework. If I remember I'll let you know what info he tells me after I research it for myself. I just don't have the time right now to try and find it on my own. I need something more than youtube videos and .coms to become a believer, I know I didn't provide anything better than that either

It's not hard to realize that fruits and vegetables are more important than meat. Literally, we all were raised hearing "eat your vegetables". That was for a good reason.

I'd say majority of vitamins come from fruits and vegetables. The few that aren't can be taken with powdered vitamins.

If you look at the meat eaters, they seem to be prone to MANY more diseases, illnesses, vitamin deficiencies, and etc.


This guy is amazing for his age, used to be vegetarian, now completely vegan. He even said his genetics aren't great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfYphKNWT9k

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There are 5 foods that are the healthiest of them all. Said by a vegan who is 112 years old, still moves around buying food.

1. Garlic(raw only)
2. Honey(true honey)
3. Cinnamon
4. Olive oil(extra virgin)
5. Dark chocolate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAvTTGDSUQ

Eating those 5 foods regardless if you're a meat eater or not, you'll be healthy. I started this diet years ago, love it! I feel better than ever, haven't been sick once. I am always full of energy and in great shape.

 

[Anonymity82]

It's not hard to realize that fruits and vegetables are more important than meat. Literally, we all were raised hearing "eat your vegetables". That was for a good reason.

I'd say majority of vitamins come from fruits and vegetables. The few that aren't can be taken with powdered vitamins.

If you look at the meat eaters, they seem to be prone to MANY more diseases, illnesses, vitamin deficiencies, and etc.


This guy is amazing for his age, used to be vegetarian, now completely vegan. He even said his genetics aren't great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfYphKNWT9k

The hard part is affording organic fruits and veggies. Can be very expensive.

I agree 100%, more organic fruits and veggies, grains and nuts/seeds etc... less meat. I was able to give up red meat and pork easily. I was tired of feeling guilty when I ate them lol. Now I don't! I don't feel as bad for chicken, fish and turkey. They don't seen as smart as red meat animals and pork. Not saying they aren't smart. Just my opinion.

Now gmo is making its move which is upsetting.

 

[Tarantula155]

The hard part is affording organic fruits and veggies. Can be very expensive.

I agree 100%, more organic fruits and veggies, grains and nuts/seeds etc... less meat. I was able to give up red meat and pork easily. I was tired of feeling guilty when I ate them lol. Now I don't! I don't feel as bad for chicken, fish and turkey. They don't seen as smart as red meat animals and pork. Not saying they aren't smart. Just my opinion.

Now gmo is making its move which is upsetting.

I wish this thread was posted under "the watering hole" because then I can show a video to you all how they slaughter innocent animals. As soon as you see how they treat and slaughter them, you'd turn or think about being a vegetarian/vegan.

 

[ShredderEmp]

I wish this thread was posted under "the watering hole" because then I can show a video to you all how they slaughter innocent animals. As soon as you see how they treat and slaughter them, you'd turn or think about being a vegetarian/vegan.

Sorry, haha. THis thread was supposed to be about sharks, however.

 

[Crysta]

I wish this thread was posted under "the watering hole" because then I can show a video to you all how they slaughter innocent animals. As soon as you see how they treat and slaughter them, you'd turn or think about being a vegetarian/vegan.

most of those were killed by PETA people to get rep... and made by PETA people..
But i dont like the idea of suffering..in any form..
especially those amazon forests we will need to cull to be able to provide vegetables for everyone... if we didn't eat meat.