Pamphobeteus nigricolor

[A guy]

Anyone have info on Pamphobeteus nigricolor affinis I? I always see affinis II but not I

All I know is they're locality is close to the true nigricolor and both affinis I and II localities are different but that's about it. Are there ways to tell them apart via physical appearance?

 

[cold blood]

As slings, the real nigricolor does not have the little black tree on the orange rump...the one known as "hobby" nigricolor does have this.

 

[A guy]

As slings, the real nigricolor does not have the little black tree on the orange rump...the one known as "hobby" nigricolor does have this.

I knew this but both affinis I and II, like the true nigricolor do not have the Christmas tree pattern on their abdomens. I always see affinis II posted on social media but very rarely affinis I. A local dealer has a pair of affinis I so I'm wondering if I can differentiate them from affinis II

If I'm not mistaken the "hobby" nigricolor is sp. nigricolor from Ecuador, thus the Christmas tree pattern. But both affinis I and II are from Columbia

 

[c.h.esteban]

P. nigricolor
The P. nigricolor, which is in the hobby was found "near" the described type locality.

P. aff. nigricolor
The person who found them, found also similar specimens in a significant distance. These was only labeled as P. aff. nigricolor because at these time there was no need to number them.

P. aff. nigricolor II
Later, other persons found also similar specimens on a different locality. They labeled them as P. aff. nigricolor II.

Note to the type locality.
Ausserer described "St. Fé de Bogota" as type locality for P. nigricolor as well for P. fortis, M. robustum or X. immanis. But none of these species was found in the area around Bogota.
So Bogota is most likely only the place where Keyserling got the specimens from the collectors.

 

[A guy]

P. nigricolor
The P. nigricolor, which is in the hobby was found "near" the described type locality.

P. aff. nigricolor
The person who found them, found also similar specimens in a significant distance. These was only labeled as P. aff. nigricolor because at these time there was no need to number them.

P. aff. nigricolor II
Later, other persons found also similar specimens on a different locality. They labeled them as P. aff. nigricolor II.

Note to the type locality.
Ausserer described "St. Fé de Bogota" as type locality for P. nigricolor as well for P. fortis, M. robustum or X. immanis. But none of these species was found in the area around Bogota.
So Bogota is most likely only the place where Keyserling got the specimens from the collectors.

So no noticeable difference in appearance? Just locality?