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Thanks. I just had to double check & be sure, as he was purchased as a nigricolor. Yet, he lacks the coloration of a nigricolor. Here's a snap of my male nigricolor. The difference is fairly apparent.I just had a consultation with Mr. Google and he says that's the coloring for this species.
Google quite frequently returns mixed up results so I'd hardly call that a reliable source of photo-identifying (already a dubious identification method). For example, looking up a particular species of Pamphobeteus often brings up pictures obviously different species of Pampho. Google image search B.smithi--it doesn't take long for auratum and eventually even boehmei to show up and B.smithi is pretty basic. Realistically if the OP is that unsure of which species he has, he should hold off on breeding him and wait to hear from those who've had MM Pamphos in their care.I just had a consultation with Mr. Google and he says that's the coloring for this species.
Not always true, just look at the muddied Brachypelma species, they're breeding just fine.Female will eat the sac, even if he does and manages to get one. On top of all that, the offspring will be infertile.
Not always true, just look at the muddied Brachypelma species, they're breeding just fine.
Though as I said, if it was sold as nigricolor (albeit probably the hobby form), then that's probably what it is
Yes but just because some hybrids are in-fertile doesn't mean all are, Pamphobeteus species have some area overlap so some natural (and possibly fertile) hybrids aren't out of the question.Don't forget these are not Brachypelma![]()
Hmmm. Yours is much lighter than mine. . . But mine is lighter than P. Nigricolor. I'm even more confused than I was initially lol. There has to be a way to distinguish the difference.View attachment 138497
Here's another pic of a platy mm to compare
Some species can be told apart via spermathecae (which your male does not have) or emboli shape (which requires you to either maim the animal or get very detailed shots), and there are some in the trade that don't even have a described type specimen; you may figure out what it is not but you won't know what it is.Hmmm. Yours is much lighter than mine. . . But mine is lighter than P. Nigricolor. I'm even more confused than I was initially lol. There has to be a way to distinguish the difference.
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I would love to see more papers on tarantulas too, I just always hold the view that life doesn't act how we want it to, none the less fertile hybrids or not the pamph shouldn't be bred if there are doubts to what it is.A person, who has studied them in the wild and knows them very well, shared with me that the females will eat the sacs due to sensing some sort of pheromone imbalance. I guess we need studies on the matter to confirm or deny.
Agreed. It was label P. Nigricolor right up until the ultimate molt. I recieved it as a penultimate male. I'm not sure how easy it is to mislabel or If lids got switched during a feeding session prior to me purchasing him. Very possible though. He's really pretty. I gotta figure out what he is so he won't go to waste.Some species can be told apart via spermathecae (which your male does not have) or emboli shape (which requires you to either maim the animal or get very detailed shots), and there are some in the trade that don't even have a described type specimen; you may figure out what it is not but you won't know what it is.
I would love to see more papers on tarantulas too, I just always hold the view that life doesn't act how we want it to, none the less fertile hybrids or not the pamph shouldn't be bred if there are doubts to what it is.
ID'ing a Pamphobeteus ( or any spider really) by color is a horrible way to identify a spider.
Later, Tom
I agree to a certain extent there.ID'ing a Pamphobeteus ( or any spider really) by color is a horrible way to identify a spider.
Later, Tom
What extant doesn't agree with that?I agree to a certain extent there.
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