Genus Orphnaecus

[moricollins]

Soren, is that a full sized Orphnaecus sp. "Philippines" in your picture? if not, how big do they get (if you know)

thanks
Mori

 

[phormingochilus]

It's a young adult in the picture. They do not get big - on the contrary. They max out with a legspan in the 5-6 cm range, with diminutive males with legspans in the 3-4 cm range.They have the same attitude as their larger cousins though ;-)

Søren

Soren, is that a full sized Orphnaecus sp. "Philippines" in your picture? if not, how big do they get (if you know)

thanks
Mori

 

[olecon]

Orphnaecus

The picture of the Orphnaecus sp II Philippines has made by Christian Meder, thank you to not appropriate this picture.

olecon

 

[moricollins]

Slings:

Mori

 

[cloud711]

very nice. where did you get one? i couldnt get my hands on one even if im from the Philippines.

 

[Sadistik]

Nice spider mine must be about the same size I think I bought 3 of them a while ago mine web like crazy :clap:

 

[Poeci]

Adult male and female of spec "phillipines II"

I hope that I'll get some eggsacs in time

 

[lpw]

Orphnaecus sp. "Philippine Rust Orange"

 

[Steve Nunn]

Hi,
I guess "Philippine Rust Orange" (lpw, I noted the quotation marks, well placed by you IMO ) is Orphnaecus sp. "cebu" then??

I have to say that common names that refer to colour of any Asian form theraphosid is going to be a major cause for concern in the future. Hopefully the dealers of these animals can figure out quickly what they have (often not their fault, that could be the name they were given too) and perhaps stick with a locale for the descriptive hobby epitah for now. The name "rust orange" will be applicable to over half of the true Orphnaecus species/forms and in some of those cases, I can guarantee far more applicable then the specimen in the above images.

If you guys can pull this genus into line quickly it would be good for the hobby, if you start to accidently cross the island forms, then you are possibly removing the isolating mechanism that prevented the cross in the wild, this could mean within several generations, instead of 5-6 forms/species, you may end up with one or two very messy looking small spiders. I can't emphasize how important it is to preserve the genetic integrity of these island forms for the hobby and the only way to do that is to jump on this quickly and sort out what came from where and quickly, or else these maturing males are going to do nothing but devastate the genetic captive stock and effectivly be useless. You need to remember you're not dealing with sympatric species here, these are species/forms distinctly and clearly, albeit very recently, isolated from each other, which is really, REALLY important to remember if you aren't exactly sure what you have and you wish to breed.

This has already possibly happened with a Poecilotheria sp., would not be good to see it with this beautiful genus too

Cheers,
Steve

 

[FryLock]

Im pretty sure that will happen sooner or later Steve, a lot of ppl will still breed without locus info and without key's (even when they become accessable to the wider hobby many won't use them) let's hope such beuts as peerboomi can last without being turned into some kind of spider mutt .

Obligatory been posted before hand lyra of O.peerboomi pic.

 

[Bearo]

Does anyone have a picture of an adult O. sp. "mount Kanlaon" or some info? Eaven if its just info about how big they get I would like to know..

 

[Steve Nunn]

Hi,
Illustrations of the smaller Mt Canlaon species:

Steve

 

[T.Raab]

Hi Steve,

very nice illustration.

 

[urs]

Good info!:clap:
And I must say that I agree with Steve about crossbreeding.
ps. Steve do you have any idea what happened with pokies, witch ones are crossbreeds?

Best regards Uros

 

[Steve Nunn]

Hi,
No I don't not precisely anyway. But I think Ray Gabriel (Angelarachnid), Martin Huber and Henrik know of this happening to P.smithi stock. I think Steffen B. in Sweden knows of a deliberate cross of P.regalis/P.ornata = P.renata (or some such stupid name) and if you Know J.M. Verdez, for sure he may have information on this.

I remember another case of mistaken crossing in the Pokies (causing huge losses in captive stock), but for the life of me I can't remember for now......

Steve

 

[urs]

Thanks!

Best regards Uros

 

[Bearo]

Hi,
No I don't not precisely anyway. But I think Ray Gabriel (Angelarachnid), Martin Huber and Henrik know of this happening to P.smithi stock. I think Steffen B. in Sweden knows of a deliberate cross of P.regalis/P.ornata = P.renata (or some such stupid name) and if you Know J.M. Verdez, for sure he may have information on this.

I remember another case of mistaken crossing in the Pokies (causing huge losses in captive stock), but for the life of me I can't remember for now......

Steve

I guess you meant Stefan B. in Sweden..? Phalagorn..
He has not crossbread if anyone got confused..

I saw pictures in the Genus Poecilotheria thread of a hybrid P. regalis X P. ornata
And I think its on the www.poecilotheria.com site they have P. ornata X P. fasciata pictures

And btw Steve, thanks for the info about the O. sp. "mt kanalon"

 

[FryLock]

Nice work indeed Steve, i see the lyra are fairly well developed for a small sp, be about 3"-4" leg span maybe?.

 

[Steve Nunn]

@ Bearo,
Hi, yes, I did mean Stefan and no, he's definately not the one who actually did the crossbreed, stefan is too smart for that!! Sorry if that confused anyone.

@ Bill,
Thanks Yes, about 3-4 ", and a mature female at that, but this is not to be confused with the sp.II Philippines (from further north), that one's really small with a very weak lyra.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[ZOKU]

Guys,

This thread as been very informative but I am wondering specifically again how you guys are keeping your O. pellitus species? Damp? Dry? I do not know the age of my spider but he is awfully tiny with extremely long legs. The elongated abdomen and coloring presented in the photos are definitely a match as to what my spider looks like...