Ornithoctoninae sp. "hati hati" VERSUS Harpactira pulchripes - Which to get

[efmp1987]

I think these two are very nice-looking OW's. Coloration is velvety, milky, creamy, or rich as opposed to "iridescent". I'm so confused what to get.

Quick question:

1. I can't seem to find info as to max size for female of H. pulchripes
2. Between the two, which would you prefer?

And no, I don't handle spiders, even slings.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Personally since I'm a man that loves to speak 'straight' (I will probably receive dislikes, lol, for what I will say now, but it's ok) H.pulchripes are a pure finest scam, for me.

Basically (despite the fact that the Theraphosidae is ok, no doubts) we are speaking about a differently coloured, and in general more "shy", P.murinus.

Problem: they aren't hard at all to breed (I wouldn't dare to say 'easy like OBT are' but trust me, they aren't hard to breed at all) so nothing, IMO (aside the initial "rapture" I can understand) today for me justify the money asked for a H.pulchripes.

Care is, like for 'OBT', incredible easy. Their size is, cm more, cm less, the size of their "poor cousins" P.murinus.

The other is your average, in general on the "reclusive" side, Asian arboreal. Of course, the care is different.

Personally (aside what I think about H.pulchripes price scam-festival) both are ok, but gun at the head I will take the Asian.

 

[efmp1987]

Personally since I'm a man that loves to speak 'straight' (I will probably receive dislikes, lol, for what I will say now, but it's ok) H.pulchripes are a pure finest scam, for me.

Basically (despite the fact that the Theraphosidae is ok, no doubts) we are speaking about a differently coloured, and in general more "shy", P.murinus.

Problem: they aren't hard at all to breed (I wouldn't dare to say 'easy like OBT are' but trust me, they aren't hard to breed at all) so nothing, IMO (aside the initial "rapture" I can understand) today for me justify the money asked for a H.pulchripes.

Care is, like for 'OBT', incredible easy. Their size is, cm more, cm less, the size of their "poor cousins" P.murinus.

The other is your average, in general on the "reclusive" side, Asian arboreal. Of course, the care is different.

Personally (aside what I think about H.pulchripes price scam-festival) both are ok, but gun at the head I will take the Asian.

P. murinus is a very heavy webber, while H. pulchripes, from what I have seen so far, is rather reserved with web construction - correct me if I'm wrong. I don't like heavy webbers because the tank looks like an abandoned fish tank lol. What got me attracted to to H. pulchripes are the blue leg bands. I think this compliment the soft golden color of the spider.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

P. murinus is a very heavy webber

Well, if to a P.murinus someone offer a nice level of substrate inches (let's say 6/7), a piece of cork bark to use for hide (my female burrowed under), you wouldn't see that kind of 'GBB web enclosure', because their first preferred option is always to burrow.

Since 'OBT' are extremely adaptable, they will web the whole enclosure if 'less' stuff is present (e.g less substrate, no cork... nothing, aside two fake leaves).

The enclosure of my female 'OBT', doing that, isn't nowhere near the one of my female 'GBB', with (of course) web everywhere.

With that said, of course, the "final word" on such issue is always the spider one

 

[Chris LXXIX]

What got me attracted to to H. pulchripes are the blue leg bands. I think this compliment the soft golden color of the spider.

Sure. I don't debate personal taste at all

I just simply consider H.pulchripes prices a scam, for that they are easy to breed. In fact, no one would pay that much of money for an 'OBT' u_u

 

[carterxwr]

P. murinus is a very heavy webber, while H. pulchripes, from what I have seen so far, is rather reserved with web construction - correct me if I'm wrong. I don't like heavy webbers because the tank looks like an abandoned fish tank lol. What got me attracted to to H. pulchripes are the blue leg bands. I think this compliment the soft golden color of the spider.

Just make note that the "blue" on H. Pulchripes isn't as blue as a lot of people think. When under a light or subjected to a flash you may notice a lot more blue, but it's really a blue tinted grey on most specimens. Still an extremely striking looking T and a great addition to any collection. If you can find slings under 90 dollars I would pull the trigger in a heartbeat.

 

[boina]

I own a hati but I don't have a H. pulchripes and have just decided against getting one at the next show, so my preferences should be clear

From what I've seen at other people's places Chris is right - H. pulchripes doesn't web much more or less than P. murinus. It mostly depends on your setup. Lots of substrate and both will happily burrow, but usually they will web the area around their entrance. If they can't burrow they'll web everything up. I think H. pulchripes stays a bit smaller than your average OBT, though - around 3" to 4" at best.

The O. sp. hati hati is one of my most shy and reclusive Asian Arboreals and in a group of spiders that are ALL shy and reclusive that means something. I only get to see her if I peek into her burrow with a flashlight. Yes, they burrow, especially as slings, but even as juveniles and sometimes as adults. Don't be fooled by this 'arboreal' stuff. You won't have a webbed enclosure, you will have an empty looking enclosure. I'm really into Asian Arboreals, that's why I have the hatihati, but you need to be aware of their reclusive nature.

Edit: I don't know how much experience you have so I just want to mention that asian arboreals are insanly fast and well prepared to use that speed.

 

[KezyGLA]

Both are stunning. But I would choose Harpactira pulchripes. The reasons being.

Hati hati is super reclusive, pretty much a dirt tower. Alrhough highly available as common. Cheap as chips too.

But to me a spider that you can see wins

 

[Ellenantula]

I imagine either one would make you happy.
Hati Hati....

 

[efmp1987]

Hi all! Thanks for the input. I'm more leaning to H. pulchripes, but also considering to get an OBT instead. OBT's are a classic thats for sure

Aside from these two, what other OW terrestrial, that aren't total holes can be recommended? Either way, my want list for now (in no particular order)

* G. pulchra - beautifully black and very chunky omfg ***drool****
* H. pulchripes
* P. muticus
* Anything blue
* Anything yellow/orange
* NO or little urticating hairs - a rule that cannot be broken unfortunately
* Over 4 inches when grown up

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Hi all! Thanks for the input. I'm more leaning to H. pulchripes, but also considering to get an OBT instead. OBT's are a classic thats for sure

Aside from these two, what other OW terrestrial, that aren't total holes can be recommended? Either way, my want list for now (in no particular order)

* G. pulchra - beautifully black and very chunky omfg ***drool****
* H. pulchripes
* P. muticus
* Anything blue
* Anything yellow/orange
* NO or little urticating hairs - a rule that cannot be broken unfortunately
* Over 4 inches when grown up

Screw the rest (aside for the Prophet, 'OBT') and buy the Goddess*

Join us! Join the Cult of The Benevolent Hissing Mother

* 0.1 Pelinobius muticus PBUH (Peace Be Upon Her)

Here my sweet baby in all of Her Glory

 

[efmp1987]

AMG! Looks hu

Screw the rest (aside for the Prophet, 'OBT') and buy the Goddess*

Join us! Join the Cult of The Benevolent Hissing Mother

* 0.1 Pelinobius muticus PBUH (Peace Be Upon Her)

Here my sweet baby in all of Her Glory

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AMG! Looks huggable :3 They have an attractive chestnut coloration and quite fat T___T Me want one.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

AMG! Looks hu



AMG! Looks huggable :3 They have an attractive chestnut coloration and quite fat T___T Me want one.

And don't forget the huuuge size and those unique rear legs no other Theraphosidae possess, eh eh

 

[KezyGLA]

Pretty much all species from Harpactira genus are not pet holes. (Except Harpactira atra)

 

[efmp1987]

And don't forget the huuuge size and those unique rear legs no other Theraphosidae possess, eh eh

I have to find a cheapo Because I'm cheap. and she has to be female ROFL

 

[Chris LXXIX]

I have to find a cheapo Because I'm cheap. and she has to be female ROFL

I understand your concern, man, but... putting a price tag in front of the Goddess*? Heresy, by Jove!

Sadly in the U.S they still don't realize (like in Europe) that the Goddess* needs to be sold at fair prices, like here u_u

* 0.1 Pelinobius muticus PBUH (Peace Be Upon Her)

 

[Leila]

by Jove!

Everytime you say these words, I think of @EulersK.

Um, as far as suggesting which of those two species to purchase: I don't have a clue. Sowwy.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Everytime you say these words, I think of @EulersK.

I know. I'm not anymore into your good graces, sadly <-- sad Butters face

 

[efmp1987]

On a side note, I saw a picture of a pretty pale/bone white/chalky white specie (Not H. mac), but cant remember what it was! @_@

 

[Jones0911]

There's no reason to choose, get both I have I think 8 or so of Hati - Hati and two H/Ps on the way!!

My H/Ps were inexpensive as far as these go I've never seen any this cheap until now....

What ever you do end up buying, make sure you get a minimum of two so you can increase your chances of buying a female