Ornamental tarantulas

[Duckaay]

So im pretty new to the hobby of tarantulas, now before anyone says your a beginner and you are not ready for one of these my first tarantula was a salmon pink bird eater on Saturday i picked up my OBT (Pterinochilus murinus) for good practice with faster more aggressive Ts. Now in a few months im planning on buying an ornamental tarantula from my local store most likely Heteroscodra maculata as they have a confirmed female i was just wondering to these do well in room temperature 70f etc. most care sheets i read aim for a little higher i was just wondering if temperature seriously effected these types seriously my two Ts do well in room temperature.

 

[BobGrill]

So im pretty new to the hobby of tarantulas, now before anyone says your a beginner and you are not ready for one of these my first tarantula was a salmon pink bird eater on Saturday i picked up my OBT (Pterinochilus murinus) for good
practice with faster more aggressive Ts. Now in a few months im planning on buying an ornamental tarantula from my local store most likely Heteroscodra maculata as they have a confirmed female i was just wondering to these do well in
room temperature 70f ect. most care sheets i read aim for a little higher i was just wondering if temperature seriously effected these types seriously my two Ts do well in room temperature.

H. Maculata is not an ornamental tarantula. Its a baboon spider and belongs to a completely different genus. Poecilotheria are commonly called ornamental tarantulas and are very different. I suggest you do more research before acquiring any more old worlds.

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[friendttyy]

Well, from experience not a lot of people will say uou should get one. I would also suggest you wait. Remember that the venom of pokies are much more potent than OBT's. They are defensive and fast as hell. They require high humidity and temperatures. I know they are great display genus but its better to be safe than sorry. I had my male P.Regalis escape once. If you decide to be like me and ignore what we say, just becareful with the tarantulas.

Good Luck.

 

[BobGrill]

Well, from experience not a lot of people will say uou should get one. I would also suggest you wait. Remember that the venom of pokies are much more potent than OBT's. They are defensive and fast as hell. They require high humidity and temperatures. I know they are great display genus but its better to be safe than sorry. I had my male P.Regalis escape once. If you decide to be like me and ignore what we say, just becareful with the tarantulas.

Good Luck.

Wrong, they do not require high humidity, in fact most members of this genus prefer things on the drier side. Also most poecs aren't defensive unless cornered or continuously annoyed. They are more skittish than defensive. H. Maculata ad I said is a totally unrelated species and while it too would usually rather flee when threatened, it can be more defensive than most poecs.

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[friendttyy]

Wrong, they do not require high humidity, in fact most members of this genus prefer things on the drier side. Also most poecs aren't defensive unless cornered or continuously annoyed. They are more skittish than defensive. H. Maculata ad I said is a totally unrelated species and while it too would usually rather flee when threatened, it can be more defensive than most poecs.

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Dont arboreals need high humidity? I read on a caresheet humidity should be around 75 to 80?

 

[BobGrill]

Dont arboreals need high humidity? I read on a caresheet humidity should be around 75 to 80?

No they do not. Don't use caresheets, half the time they don't even know what they're talking about. Do yourself a favor and buy a copy of the Tarantulas Keepers Guide. It will tell you everything you need to know about arboreal care.

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[awiec]

H.maculata is known to have worse venom than Poecilotheria, and have a little more attitude. Just because you have had an OBT for 2 seconds does not mean you are ready for an H.maculata, I strongly suggest that you master your OBT care before even thinking about any more OW. Also lasiodora parahybana (Your "birdeater") is not a hard T to take care of and is considered a beginner T. A P.regalis was my 4th T but I have 18 years of true spider care and experience on my side so it was not much of a jump, H.maculata I still think is even beyond my confidence and skill, until I can raise my other OW to sub-adult stage and have become comfortable with re-housing. Its not fair to you or the T if you get into something more than you are ready for. If your T were to escape or bite you then there could be a media circus (as you will want medical attention, go read the bite reports) and that will figuratively screw all of us over. There are laws already trying to ban Poecilotheria here in the US, do you want similar laws to happen in your country too? We are all in this hobby together and all it takes is one headstrong person to mess around with the wrong species to destroy the hobby.

 

[vespers]

H. Maculata is not an ornamental tarantula.

Actually, they are sometimes called "Ornamental Baboons". Another reason not use "common" names, and cut down on the confusion.

 

[advan]

Do yourself a favor and buy a copy of the Tarantulas Keepers Guide. It will tell you everything you need to know about arboreal care.

No it won't. Researching the seasons, temperatures and humidity levels within the native range of said species will.

 

[friendttyy]

No it won't. Researching the seasons, temperatures and humidity levels within the native range of said species will.

Agreed. TKG is a good guide line but not a perfect guideline.

 

[Python]

on Saturday i picked up my OBT (Pterinochilus murinus) for good practice with faster more aggressive Ts.

Picking up something called "orange bitey thing" is a universally bad idea. I'm surprised no one had mentioned it. If there os no reason to pick something up, don't do it. The T, contrary to popular belief, does not like you and handling it only gives it more reason to not like you. It also gives it ample opportunity to show you how it got it's name. Handling is never a good idea.

 

[BobGrill]

Actually, they are sometimes called "Ornamental Baboons". Another reason not use "common" names, and cut down on the confusion.

Yeah, I know this I have one.

Also why the hell would you pick up an OBT?

 

[z32upgrader]

Also why the hell would you pick up an OBT?

I'm pretty sure he means "purchased", not pick up and carry around. I went to the store today to pick up a gallon of milk...then I set it back down. It's not always the way you first perceive it to be.

 

[Python]

Ahh. Glad you chimed in. I completely misunderstood that one lol. My apologies.

 

[elliotulysses]

From all the confusion it seems OP did not do research! Even as someone who really researched p. murinus I was jumping into some deep water. Now, I really am fond of mine, even if I'm just his web destroying, water filling, cricket dropping annoyance.
But wait to get to know your orange beautiful tarantula! You may think you've got it under control but OW species will humble you FAST! Wait until you have some rehousing experience, an escape, a dash up your tongs/arm, or all of the above.
However if you are nosey or want a friend that doesn't mind being your friend, get a nice NW species. Like a Brachypelma albopilosum. They are pretty much too cute to exist

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[Pociemon]

Dont arboreals need high humidity? I read on a caresheet humidity should be around 75 to 80?

Some of the poecs do need high humidity. No poec should be kept dry, only for breeding purposes is this adviceable. You should not let humidity drop below 70% with any poec. And that is medium humidity, not on the dry side.

 

[Duckaay]

i did research its just ornamental baboon is commonly used name for them even in the store ... i should of also said im not planning on buying one for a while i would never attempt on handling the obt its one of the nastiest things ive come across i wouldn't like to stick with docile tarantulas forever you have to start somewhere i research the crap out of tarantulas when i can obviously my knowledge will not be as good as someone who has been in the hobby for years but some people arrogance is sort of amusing.. but i thank the people who gave useful information in all the confusion or made an attempt to sort out the confusion..

 

[awiec]

i did research its just ornamental baboon is commonly used name for them even in the store ... i should of also said im not planning on buying one for a while i would never attempt on handling the obt its one of the nastiest things ive come across i wouldn't like to stick with docile tarantulas forever you have to start somewhere i research the crap out of tarantulas when i can obviously my knowledge will not be as good as someone who has been in the hobby for years but some people arrogance is sort of amusing.. but i thank the people who gave useful information in all the confusion or made an attempt to sort out the confusion..

Arrogance is jumping into a T you know is defensive (The OBT) after only having experience with a docile T and then disregarding the warnings others give you. I hope you do well with your OBT and that it has a happy life, but it was a poor choice to get as a second T; there are plenty of other OW that you could have chose as a first time OW.

 

[tweakz]

There is a big difference between 'knowledge' and 'experience.' I cannot stress this enough as I made this mistake myself not too long ago. I have only been seriously into the hobby for a about 18 months, about 3 months in I thought I was prepared for my OBT....HOLY CRAP WAS I WRONG WHEN IT CAME TIME TO REHOUSE HER! Based on the amount of research I put in at the time I probably had the knowledge of a 5+ year hobbyist, but please trust me when say experience is a VERY different thing.

 

[Duckaay]

Arrogance is jumping into a T you know is defensive (The OBT) after only having experience with a docile T and then disregarding the warnings others give you. I hope you do well with your OBT and that it has a happy life, but it was a poor choice to get as a second T; there are plenty of other OW that you could have chose as a first time OW.

Well you have to start somewhere? i know the OBTs are very fast and unpredictable but i respect that i dont understand the problem with me going for one so early ? i have seen a guy but multiple ornamental s without having any form of experience with Ts and even he didn't flare up this reaction "poor choice for a second T" my OBT is fine and im sure she will live out the rest of her life that way

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There is a big difference between 'knowledge' and 'experience.' I cannot stress this enough as I made this mistake myself not too long ago. I have only been seriously into the hobby for a about 18 months, about 3 months in I thought I was prepared for my OBT....HOLY CRAP WAS I WRONG WHEN IT CAME TIME TO REHOUSE HER! Based on the amount of research I put in at the time I probably had the knowledge of a 5+ year hobbyist, but please trust me when say experience is a VERY different thing.

Well when i got mine i had her tank set up i just had to move her into there and it went pretty smooth even though i was pretty worried about how it would pan out she is now happily webbing her tank which im sure will cause problems for me in a later date