Old worlds?

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I have a C. darlingi, she's never thrown a threat posture and isn't much of a bolter, but always eats well and sits out in the open. I've heard the same from many others, but bear in mind temperament can change individually, and even moult-to-moult, so my statement isn't a guarantee 😊.
Worth it for the horn though!!
I might go with the C.Darlingi or a Balfouri.. this is tuff Decision.
 

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I like baboons a LOT.
I started with them for my first ow's and if I were to suggest one it would be c. Marshalli /straight horned baboon. Obt's and kings are also delightful.
Just know when you're ready and don't trust 'em.
Wait, I just have one question.. Can you hold a OW as a sling?
 

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Wait, I just have one question.. Can you hold a OW as a sling?
As slings they are less likely to bite but more likely to get lost.
An obt sling bolting onto your hand isn't scary.
In a year that same spider can make you a little nervous.
You COULD handle Any spider but I would not recommend it
They don't want to be touched and I wouldn't try.
 

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I held a T once... an O. Violaceopes ran up the tongs. Neither of us was real happy about the situation
 

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S.Crassipes has been unlike most of my other Phlogius and quite photogenic, its the only one that doesnt run away when i close its lid. Fast growth, heavy webber, great appetite, but admittedly skittish 20200525_210238.jpg

Not that Aussies really get any choice but start with OW's, but i will say this is a species that has been quite pleasant to keep from a fingernail sized sling up to 130mm DLS. I know these are available outside Aus but idk how common they are
 

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What would be a good First old world T? I'm not going to get one for a WHILE until im more experience with T's. And I want to study up on a lot of Old worlds.

I would like everyone's who post's on here their recommendation and pics if possible.

My goal was when I'm more experienced is to get a OBT or a Minax. They are both quite beautiful and I wouldn't get those as my First but definitely in the future.
Whatever your choice, I do recommend you start with a sling. My first OW a long time ago was an OBT sling. ;)

M. balfouri is a great choice if you want something a bit different (i.e. a communal set up).
They are relatively more chilled in a communal than when housed individually + your chance of seeing at least one outside is much greater.
Even as a single T, I do still like the M. balfouri for its semi-arboreal heavy-webbing tendency (i.e. like a GBB).

Ceratogyrus is a good genius to start with as well. The horn is a distinctive feature that is almost exclusive to the genus.
I am particularly fond of the C. darlingi. Mine just didn't get the memo that baboons are supposed to be defensive and fossorial. It webbed up the ground and refused to burrow. If I spooked it, it would scurry into the wooden hide (terrestrial-style). Never had a single threat pose and it was an adult female.

And as always, I'll add Pokies to the list of suggestions.
They are predictable (unlike an OBT / minax), more skittish than bitey (unlike an OBT / minax) and definitely not that fast (unlike an OBT / minax). And unlike the C.darlingi which was the exception to the baboon norms, all my Pokies were sweet hearts and very certainly don't deserve the notoriety.
Still, definitely start from a sling to minimise risks as you become more familiar with your specimen individuality.
 

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Pokie subfusca lowland. As noted above, the whole drama thing about Pokies is utterly overblown and relates to an isolated case here or there which can happen with virtually any genus, especially if enclosure set-up is poor where the T doesn't have much of a retreat. They're spectacular to see (note pic) and the only slight drawback is they will shoot their poo around a bit so interior glass cleaning will be necessary (that's a tong grabbing moist paper towel job). Pic is not mine.
 

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I said "not that fast", not "not fast". :smirk:

Pokies speed is very much overplayed. For example, my current P.met juvie is not even the fastest on its shelf. The M. balfouri juvies win the pan-shelf sprinting competition.
Anecdotal stories:
  • I spooked my P.met and it sprinted out of the top of the tank, down the tank, down the shelf and stopped upside down on the roof of the shelf underneath. It was faster than I could react (thus still fast) but I was able to track its movement the entire way.
  • I opened the M. balfouri tank front door to take some pictures, blinked, the T disappeared. I thought it ran back into its tunnel (as they always do) so I closed the tank. I found it the next day as it has set up shop outside behind the tank. And that's a 12" Exo Terra cube so it was a substantial distance to cover within less than half a second for the T to disappear from my view in a blink.
 

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I said "not that fast", not "not fast". :smirk:

Pokies speed is very much overplayed. For example, my current P.met juvie is not even the fastest on its shelf. The M. balfouri juvies win the pan-shelf sprinting competition.
Anecdotal stories:
  • I spooked my P.met and it sprinted out of the top of the tank, down the tank, down the shelf and stopped upside down on the roof of the shelf underneath. It was faster than I could react (thus still fast) but I was able to track its movement the entire way.
  • I opened the M. balfouri tank front door to take some pictures, blinked, the T disappeared. I thought it ran back into its tunnel (as they always do) so I closed the tank. I found it the next day as it has set up shop outside behind the tank. And that's a 12" Exo Terra cube so it was a substantial distance to cover within less than half a second for the T to disappear from my view in a blink.
Currently collecting NW. Had 1 OW in the past when I was much younger. An O. schiodtei. They ARE blurs, but also pet holes. I rarely saw mine, making it very difficult to cause an issue of any type.
 

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I said "not that fast", not "not fast". :smirk:

Pokies speed is very much overplayed. For example, my current P.met juvie is not even the fastest on its shelf. The M. balfouri juvies win the pan-shelf sprinting competition.
Anecdotal stories:
  • I spooked my P.met and it sprinted out of the top of the tank, down the tank, down the shelf and stopped upside down on the roof of the shelf underneath. It was faster than I could react (thus still fast) but I was able to track its movement the entire way.
  • I opened the M. balfouri tank front door to take some pictures, blinked, the T disappeared. I thought it ran back into its tunnel (as they always do) so I closed the tank. I found it the next day as it has set up shop outside behind the tank. And that's a 12" Exo Terra cube so it was a substantial distance to cover within less than half a second for the T to disappear from my view in a blink.
Whilst terrestrial and fossorial tarantulas can and might run up arboreals like pokies will definitely run up. So I'd say for someone new a tarantula that will move quickly in "3D" would be far and away harder to deal with. A tarantula shoots out of their burrow might surprise them. A tarantula running up their arm will surprise them more.

Plus pokies are leggy buggers.

Thank typed I've only got 1 OW that won't run to their burrow/hide. My Monocentropus lambertoni. She'll just throw me a defensive posture pretty much right away. Doesn't charge, just stands her ground. Then relaxes and becomes her normal calm self.

I've got some OW's that will give me a threat display if they're in their burrow entrance though.

My Haplopelma sp Bach Ma lass will. My Chilobrachys fimbriatus will and my H.mac will occasionally.

And how could I forget, my Cyriopagopus doriae lass will too.
 

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Wait, I just have one question.. Can you hold a OW as a sling?
My OBT Is almost tempting to hold since it has always been really sweet but I know better. Tbh, it does nothing for the spider and is a risk.
 

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Thats subjective, and your personal opinion.

Aside from the Venom, why would a P. Regalis not make a good first OW?

They are very hardy, everyone I had has been more laid back than many NW species.
''Aside from the venom'... That's a rather significant aspect to put aside, and what about the teleportation powers they possess?

Introduce such potential (even if it isnt realised) to even mildly experienced beginner and there is much possibility for it to go wrong...
 

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My OBT Is almost tempting to hold since it has always been really sweet but I know better. Tbh, it does nothing for the spider and is a risk.
You are lucky. All the OBT I had started to desire killing me by the time they turn 1 (inch).
 

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''Aside from the venom'... That's a rather significant aspect to put aside, and what about the teleportation powers they possess?

Introduce such potential (even if it isnt realised) to even mildly experienced beginner and there is much possibility for it to go wrong...
OP said he was working his way up to OW so he would have experience or enough confidence to get one.

With that said 99% people will recommend Psalmopoeus species as the gateway to OW, anyone with that experience can easily keep a Pokie as their first OW species.
 
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